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    posted a message on bEQL
    Indeed, calling that function is no longer necessary. That call can be removed entirely.
    Posted in: General AddOns
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    posted a message on WowMatrix - WoW Addon Updater for Mac and Windows - 100% Free
    Quote from ocean »
    The big picture is that the various addon-related sites and software updaters help each other directly and indirectly, and there is more than enough advertising revenue potential to go around the various players in this growing market.


    You said it yourself, you want to be part of the "growing market". This isn't a market for me, this is a hobby and I like being able to control where my addons can be downloaded. I choose to make them available at one specific addon site, and regardless of how silly you think the request is, I'd rather give advertising revenue to someone who's busted their ass working for me, rather than some random new entry to the "game".
    Posted in: Updaters
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    posted a message on WowMatrix - WoW Addon Updater for Mac and Windows - 100% Free
    Quote from cladhaire »

    My addon Clique is posted on this website with my permission. Please remove it.


    I can't speel. Clique is posted without my permission, please remove it.
    Posted in: Updaters
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    posted a message on WowMatrix - WoW Addon Updater for Mac and Windows - 100% Free
    My addon Clique is posted on this website with my permission. Please remove it.
    Posted in: Updaters
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    posted a message on Suggestion: Rock and Dongle addons forum
    Quote from Nickenyfiken »

    Damn, cladhaire you must have a DongleAlertGnome working on this forum ;-)


    Nah, I read the forums too.. *shrug*
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Suggestion: Rock and Dongle addons forum
    You will absolutely under no circumstances see Dongle discussed on these forums. Dongle is not part of the framework mix. I'm not recruiting authors, I don't want to convince a single person to use my framework.

    Addon users should not care one flipping bit what framework they're using. Ace may live by its branding, but the authors that choose to use Dongle know full well that advertising they use Dongle is a bad thing. They understand what that means.

    I was offered a forum here, and I refused. We already have a forum, and an IRC channel. There is no reason dongle needs to have any tie to wowace, in the least. Use my addons because they do what you need them to do, not because they're written with a given framework.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    Quote from Nickenyfiken »

    Wasn't zip files added because the SVN was overloaded making the server very very slow?

    I think the new policy should be that all addons have their externals pointing to tagged versions of the libs. So when a new Major.minor version of a library is tested and working it gets tagged and addon authors can upgrade to that version if they want/need. Problem may be that libs don't get tested well enough.

    I also think that this site should encourage authors to release addons on addon sites. Remove the whole zip updating part thing or make a proper addon release site or start cooperating with a already existing one. Maybe if a developer tag it's addon for release it automatically get updated on the release site.


    Zip files were added because they could because my poor little shared host that started this all was dying under the apache process creation. It didn't solve the issue, but it was an atempt.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on WowAce's Packagemancer and http://files.wowace.com/
    Keep it civil people, no need for everyone to get all snippy.

    The page is being worked on by Kaelten, trying to add useful features and better presentation of the data set, while reducing the amount of bandwidth required to do so. I agree, yes, it would have been nice for some of this to have been done in a sandbox, but there isn't currently a way to emulate the way the zip script runs in another directory, without bogging down the entire server (afaik). If you want to post constructive feedback, I suggest you make a new thread that clearly demonstrates what you're looking for, and what you dislike about the current page.

    <hint> a greasemonkey script to output all rows instead of paging them should be trivial.
    Posted in: Updaters
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    Both of you. Stop now. This thread has been derailed by personal crap enough.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    Quote from sylvanaar »

    Just realize that some people still like Ace2, and have devoted sizable amounts of their time as well to supporting it and addons which use it. If that doesn't include you then you need to be able to coexist with those people somehow.


    Just realize that some people were the entire reason Ace2 became an idea and existed, and supported and wrote lots of code to get you the libraries that exist today. If that doesn't include you then you need to be able to coexist with these people somehow.

    The sword has two edges, and all I ask is that we keep threads constructive, on-topic, and don't resort to personal insults and accusations. They have no place on this forum, in a constructive conversation.


    EDIT: In restrospect I would word my post:

    "Just realize that some people were instrumental in the creation of the Ace2 framework including scoping, design, and writing code for the actual libraries along with addons to use the framework. If that doesn't include you then you need to be able to coexist with these people somehow."

    My original wording overstates what I was trying to say.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    Quote from sylvanaar »
    Many people in the "community" know you only as an anti-ace2, well "troll" for lack of a better word. The same can be said for Clad, sorry - no offense. Its been a long time since you guys "left" in terms of being developers on the project (8-9 months?). Have you guys considered this?


    And not for a second did I forsake my duties as a forum moderator. Thats what we're discussing isn't it? The fact that I warned someone for taking a thread to a personal place without cause or reason.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    Quote from sylvanaar »

    You guys were serious about banning him for his posts? That is the most obnoxious thing I have ever heard.

    Many of the opinions and statments he made reflect those of people who may not want to post and endure the wall of text dressing down from each and every member of the Ace3 team - who needs that? I had the same thing happen to me in another thread, hence I dont bother to voice my opinions.

    Don't forget that life did go on while you guys were away in protest. There is a community here which you have not been part of. Some of those people may not like things you are doing. They have every right to feel that way.


    We have a discussion about making personal accusations, and you continue to throw them around. Look at my posting history. When I catch wind of a thread turning personal in the middle of heated discussion, I issue warnings and let the individual know that the behavior is not appropriate or not. Whether you like it or not, we have a responsibility to be civil to each other. I spoke directly with Bam, and he apologize regarding his personal accusations and attacks against me in a thread I've barely participated in.

    The discussion was fine.. personal insults are never okay. I helped build this community, and I've been responsible (EVEN IN MY ABSENCE) of maintaining the same levels of moderation that I did when I was extremely active in the community. You know who banned or edited all of those posts that YOU yourself reported Sylv? Me. Who spent sixty hours during a full work week setting up the new Ace server because no one could be arsed to help? Me. Don't talk to me about community, because I fully understand what we're here for, and the position of everyone involved. My words and posts, you will find, support my consistent position.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    Quote from Viserion »
    I'm very interested in Ace3 and might even write my future addons using it. At this point I'm sticking with Dongle though but will be keeping an eye on Ace3.


    Lol, people use Dongle? =) Suckers!
    Posted in: Frameworks
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    posted a message on Rock + Ace3
    To clarify, if its not clear what line you crossed, and why you were warned by two admins, I can clarify for you. I'm hoping that's unnecessary. No one here was threatened.
    Posted in: Frameworks
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