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    posted a message on Framerates?
    Moon Witch pretty much summed up my feelings on "overall maintenance". Thank you Moon Witch :D (also, interesting read about your lizard ^^).

    As far as my personal computing experience goes... This computer is 4 years old. Up until roughly May 31st, 2008, this computer had run Windows XP Home Edition. When running XP, I had used Ad-Aware, CCleaner, Spybot and AVG. These programs were run between daily and weekly and were always kept up to date. I ran the default disk defragmenter roughly monthly because I was not installing or uninstalling applications on a daily basis. I have never had a virus.

    WoW played at 15-20 fps normally, with less than 30MB of addons (including Blizzard). The only other application that would run was Firefox and I often tried to kill as many unnecessary system processes as I could.

    I now run Ubuntu 8.04. I do not run Ad-Aware, CCleaner, Spybot and AVG anymore. I have not had to change my web-browsing preferences because I have never been one to say "LOL A LINK LEMME CLIK IT !!!!!". When I play WoW, I now have roughly under 20MB of addons (including Blizzard) with the most taxing addon peaking at 5MB*. Ubuntu seems to have more running processes than XP did, although this is not a solid fact as I never bothered to compare. Ubuntu takes up fewer system resources though and I do not feel the need to kill off any processes as none of them appear to be unnecessary. When I play WoW, I only have Firefox in the background. WoW plays at 15-20 fps (lower in Outland).

    Suffice to say, yes, an awesomely bug-infested computer could cause a lot of troubles, but it seems most folks in this community have a head on their shoulders and practice "Safe Internet". For us, it's the hardware, not the user, that hinders World of Warcraft's playability.


    *5MB caused by FlagRSP2 saving character descriptions. Good god, someone please make an alternative that is not compatible with MRP, FlagRSP and its ilk. I would help with feedback, suggestions and testing in a heartbeat.
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    posted a message on Framerates?
    I had been hoping that the RAM increase would help, and though it did, it obviously wasn't going to help increase my fps dramatically. I think, if I had your video card, the game would maybe average 30fps in Outland, but that's just a guess.

    That is a nice terrarium setup :D A pretty lizard too. I'm sure the mocking is done in a "I love you because you feed me" way ;)
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    posted a message on Framerates?
    Quote from Phanx »

    Yeah, I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Time for dual-core and DDR2!

    Quote from Moon Witch »

    Amen to that.

    My computer makes my bearded dragon mock me.


    I'm itching to build a new computer; my machine is 4 years old and I've done all I can to it aside from an expensive/pointless CPU upgrade.

    I have no bearded dragon, but if I did, I'm sure my computer would make it mock me too.

    I've already done my online "window shopping", now I have to make sure Ubuntu will play nice, and work on saving up.

    As for current rig's fps, I get an average of 11 when in Outland. I ran Hellfire Ramparts with an average of 22fps which was rather surprising. If I'm in an enclosed space, I can exceed 60fps, but these spaces are usually combat-free. Like an inn.

    System specs:

    Intel P4 2.8GHz
    2.5 gig DDR RAM (upgrade from 500mb)
    EVGA GeForce FX 5500 (upgrade from older, crappier card)
    ASUS P4P800 MoBo
    Can't recall sound card.
    19" Widescreen
    Ubuntu 8.04
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    posted a message on Make an eePanel show only when another frame is shown?
    I think you'll need to find out the name of the frame that you want to have your panel attach to.

    I vaguely recall there being a macro that would help you find a frame's actual name so long as the addon author had specified one. I recall putting the macro on my action bar and having it keybound. Id' hover my cursor over the frame in question, hit the keybind, and the frame's name would be displayed in the chatbox. I am thinking that the ??? would be the frame's actual name.

    I haven't messed with eePanels in a long, long time, so hopefully someone else with more experience can fill in the other details.
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    posted a message on Desktop Screenshots - Show us your non-WoW!
    Quote from Blizz »

    You don't need a virus scanner in linux as long as you have one in windows if you are sending files to windows.


    I don't have Windows anymore. :)

    If I was a less cautious person (for example) someone could email me something that I could potentially forward to X person who is using Windows. If they're not using a good virus scanner, then they can be in trouble. I try to be mindful of what enters my inbox, though.

    Personally, I do not use an antivirus program.

    However, some people will, regardless of what anyone else says, still want such a program because they want to feel safe. In which case, an individual can either try and suggest a program or resources or repeat/type the "you don't need one" mantra until they're face (or hands) turns blue or falls off.

    This is why I felt I should link that thread - it handles the discussion well so that anyone curious to the matter could perhaps learn and decide for themselves.

    In the end though - people will do what they want.
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    posted a message on Desktop Screenshots - Show us your non-WoW!
    Quote from Moon Witch »

    You see Avanina, the terminal isn't bad at all, you should always learn the basic commands.

    eg. Removing all files with a specific extension, or even folders. One command :P Moving them, copying, making folders. It's all so much faster.

    Also when you run into problems you can ALWAYS go to a different TTY, log in and work with the console. :) (Alt + any of the F keys. I believe F7 returns you to the graphical user interface, give it a try).

    Fear is your enemy in Linux.

    Pro-tip: Try basic commands in a new account (not the one you use, nor the root -- which means no sudo). If you mess up, it's only that user :)


    I hold no fear towards terminal or Linux. If I did, I wouldn't have bothered to install Ubuntu and get rid of Windows XP. If I have the computer turned on, I am usually playing WoW, listening to music, writing documents or browsing websites. I don't have the desire to create a new user account, make a VM, or otherwise play in some sort of sandbox environment. I completely understand what you're getting at - terminal can make simple things like organizing files quicker because you're typing instead of dragging files. I whole-heartedly appreciate the suggestions you've stated. I'd just rather be playing WoW.

    Now, I'm going to go play WoW and mess around with some addons on my completely shitty computer. :)
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    posted a message on Desktop Screenshots - Show us your non-WoW!
    A virus scanner may be useful for an individual who is running Linux but sending files to users with a Windows OS, for example. Though, not everyone wants to or can be responsible for the longevity and wellbeing of others' computers.

    A fast computer always helps. In continuing to play WoW on this computer, in running Hardy, I still see that my cursor is sluggish. Again, this being a fault of Blizzard by not enabling Hardware Cursor for OpenGL mode. Aside from this, I still notice no performance difference - fps are the same (shitty), regardless of OS. My computer is old and the next step is building a new one, no more upgrades for this thing. I do not expect Ubuntu or Wine to magically make WoW run smooth as butter.

    Linux Mint also has at least one codec package enabled by default (as compared to Ubuntu), therefore the differences go a bit beyond appearance. However, as I said on the 25th of July, this codec is easily available and installed.

    I may mess with the terminal in a VM, if I ever get the itch to do so. A powerful tool, indeed - I could not have gotten my printer working were it not for the terminal, a tutorial on Ubuntu's forums (and forum posters!) for installing the required driver.
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    posted a message on Desktop Screenshots - Show us your non-WoW!
    Quote from sNaKeEe »

    What programs are you using to style your desktops?


    Emerald is a theme manager - similar to WindowBlinds but free. CompizFusion is used for desktop effects like the way windows open and close. Icon packages are handled defaulty, as are cursor themes if I'm not mistaken.

    Blizz - I love those icons, but I haven't been able to find them anywhere. :( Would you have a direct link? I've browsed GnomeLook.org but haven't found anything.
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    posted a message on Mapster: Official Thread
    Quote from Xinhuan »

    P.S. I am not the author of Mapster. :)


    Bah, my mistake. I thought I caught that - missed it on my post edit. :( That will be corrected, my apologies.
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    posted a message on Mapster: Official Thread
    Quote from Phanx »

    Personally, I'd prefer Xinhuan got to spend his time on his existing projects, rather than devoting time to creating a new quest info database.

    It's very rare that reading the actual quest text doesn't give you enough information to complete the quest. If the quest tells you to kill Enormous Furry Spiders for the drop item, kill Enormous Furry Spiders. Most quests also give you a location relative to the quest giver (i.e. "just across the river south of here"). In playing this game for 3 1/2 years, and leveling two shamans, a druid, a mage, a priest, a paladin, and now a hunter, I've needed to alt-tab and look things up for a quest, I'd say, about 50 times, ever. Given the number of times I've had people in-game ask me questions about a quest that they would have already known the answers to had they read the quest, I just can't see a "massive database of all possible info related to every quest in the game" addon being that valuable. I certainly don't understand the popularity of LightHeaded... but if you already have an addon that includes all of this frivolous information, just keep using it rather than asking someone to waste their time duplicating it.


    Not sure the way my post came out, but I didn't ask anyone specifically to make such an addon - I was just trying to toss out possibly helpful information to anyone who may have considered (or would want to consider) making such a database resource. I am aware that Xinhuan is a busy person and already has several major projects that are being actively developed. I am thankful that he is working on those addons, as I am a happy user of some of them, if not all. I only quoted Xinhuan as his reply was something I wanted to add to - he provided insight by mentioning where one addon's data could've come from, and I was saying that another addon already had the information mined.

    See now, the approach QuestInfo has taken to displaying all of this "massive database of all possible info related to every quest in the game" is straight forward, simplistic and surprisingly small (as compared to LightHeaded). I do not find QuestInfo to be frivolous in that it does exactly what it should, provide quest information. As a person who has used both LightHeaded and QuestInfo, I can say that I'd much rather be able to see the basics of "quest anatomy". I favor "quest anatomy" instead of having a huge in-game database presented to me that is made by many user-created comments that I have to preen through in order to glean the information I really am concerned with. This is not LightHeaded's fault, merely the way people decide to contribute to Wowhead.

    I consider "quest anatomy" to be defined as such:

    - Who is the NPC that has given out the quest? Co-ordinates and a name is sufficient.
    - If the starting and ending quest NPCs are different, who is the end NPC? Co-ordinates and name, again, is all I need to know.
    - Where exactly do I need to go to complete the objective? Co-ordinates is great, a physical mark on the world map even better. Waypoints are superfluous.
    - Is this quest part of a chain? A list of the chains in the quest is sufficient. This way, when someone asks me why I can't share, I can efficiently provide them with the exact answer, alleviating any possible confusion they (or I) may otherwise have.
    - Where are all the quest giving NPCs within this current zone? Helpful for farming reputation or for anyone who likes to complete zones.

    To me, using LightHeaded only does me one favor - I do not have to tab out and search via my browser. I do need to read through more than is necessary.

    I have tried many quest addons and of them, I personally think QuestInfo does the job best for providing information (quest minion addons are another breed entirely). The only problem is that it can only work in conjunction with an addon that is no longer in active development. This would be all fine and dandy if I liked Cartographer, but I feel Mapster's authors have done an excellent job with it. Furthermore, Cromulent does a fine job of giving me zone information and InstanceMaps makes a great companion.

    I feel that the purpose of an addon is to make a user's gameplay experience more enjoyable and every player has their own opinion as to what they enjoy. Aside, I believe that every addon author strives to make their addon efficient, or at least attempts to. I feel that QuestInfo is very efficient, aside from its dependency on an addon that may have a limited future. I have left a comment on QuestInfo's WoWInterface page regarding a "port" to Mapster over a month ago. Unfortunately, it has gone without reply and due to this in conjunction with the topic having arisen here at WowAce, I felt I should say something.

    If lahow were to make QuestInfo a stand-alone addon or a plugin for Mapster, there would be no duplication by another author. However, it seems that QuestInfo will remain Cartographer-specific until otherwise stated. If someone would pick up such an idea, it would be something willingly done - "duplication" would not matter in their eyes if they so had the desire to create. If there isn't a plugin made to allow users to import information from Cartographer modules and display it via a standalone "map overlay" addon, it sure would be useful, but then again, it'd be a duplicate, and well... Why not just use Cartographer, right? The point is, if there is an addon that works wonderfully that has the possibility for others to enrich it further by optional modules (or standalone addons) - someone will do it by their own decision if they want to, though suggestions, observation and insight can help with the creation process.
    Posted in: Map/Minimap AddOns
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    posted a message on SuperInspect alternative
    Quote from HunterZ »

    I use the undress button, which is just as much of a rigmarole really.


    True. With the undress button, you'd end up having to completely redress yourself - if only wanting to change a top, you'd now have to re-equip your pants, shoes, gloves and whatever else you had on before (that you wanted to keep on.)

    I sent Close Up's author a suggestion, hopefully they'll consider adding such a feature.

    There was an alternative I tried briefly, called "Dresser", but it did not seem to work for me in the way I had hoped. So, I'll be sticking with Close Up.
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    posted a message on SuperInspect alternative
    Quote from HunterZ »

    I use this combo as well. I think Examiner is no longer maintained though, which is unfortunate because I love every feature it has and would probably miss something in any of the alternatives.


    I'm glad that I haven't run into any bugs with Examiner yet. I am hoping that someone will continue it, along with Aezay's other addons, as I am a happy user of several of them.

    Aside, I'm happy with my Examiner/Close Up combination, except Close Up doesn't have a feature to remove tabard when viewing the Dressing Room pane in the Auction House. I hate having to exit from the AH frame, go to my character pane, remove my tabard, then re-open the AH pane and redo my search so I can find what I was wanting to try on.
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    posted a message on Mapster: Official Thread
    Quote from Xinhuan »

    Someone must be bored enough to make the plugin though. I'm definitely not bored nor keen to datamine wowhead/wowdb/etc for quest data.


    Cartographer_QuestInfo has everything mined already, although the upload on WowAce appears to be updated more. I prefer this over LightHeaded because I'd otherwise have to read through many comments just to find out simple bits of information like Co-ords.

    If there were two plugins made perhaps - one that is already populated with quest data from QuestInfo (Start/End NPCs, co-ords, quest series, available quest givers on map etc) and one that is just a means to display already compiled information (for Ydrisselle's example).
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    posted a message on SuperInspect alternative
    I use Examiner in conjunction with CloseUp, perhaps this pairing will meet your needs.
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    posted a message on Desktop Screenshots - Show us your non-WoW!
    Wubi is something that I never tried out, but it's pretty interesting:

    http://wubi-installer.org/
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