It's probably been stated somewhere in the 40 pages here, but I'm at work and don't have time to sift through them all. I have the latest version of EBB and am having a problem with rupture and sap showing up on the timers. I've added them to the white list, but no go. I confess that I'm new to EBB having used Sorren's Timers forever, just wanted a change. Any help would be appreciated.