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    posted a message on Case sensitivity
    Hi. I'm a Linux user.

    Please remember to use the same capitalization for file names that you do when referring to those files.

    If you embed everything in "libs", and refer to it as being in "Libs", not only does your addon work, but you can break other Ace addons on the same install, because they end up somehow confused by your addon's failure to load a given library.

    Thank you.
    Posted in: AddOn HELP!
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    posted a message on WTF just happened?
    Quote from sarbian
    You mean like the all the other poster who actualy did it ? With threat like that I am sure you'll send the admin running in fear :p


    Well, I'm not gonna do it if they say not to. I'm not threatening them, I'm just pointing out that there is a practical upper limit to the inconvenience, so I don't see any reason to make a big fuss.
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    posted a message on Curse Client auth servers down?
    Seems likely. I filed a ticket, then noticed the last page and a half of tickets are all the same across Mac and Windows.

    WTB tarball+ftp.
    Posted in: General Chat
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    posted a message on The New Curse Client
    Eh, can't do much more without actually reading the manual.

    And if I were in a good cognitive state to be reading documentation, I'd be working, not wishing I could just run my !@#!#@ shell script that updates all my addons perfectly well from the old files.wowace. ;)
    Posted in: Updaters
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    posted a message on The New Curse Client
    Quote from neoaeon
    "An unknown error occured contacting the server."

    netstat shows
    TCP 192.168.1.152:51651 69.57.184.211:80 SYN_SENT 5584
    TCP 192.168.1.152:51652 69.57.184.211:80 SYN_SENT 5584

    PID 5584 is CurseClient.exe

    Lose a server?

    "Tickets" 818 through 821 are the same issue, so I didn't create a duplicate ticket.

    -neo


    My results are similar to yours.

    I do actually get some responses from the server (can't read 'em 'cuz it's using gzip), but the interesting thing is: If I snoop a firefox connection, I see real data for headers, but then it goes to gzip for page bodies. When I snoop the client, it starts out sending gzipped stuff from the beginning, and gets back only more stuff which looks gzipped.
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    posted a message on Curse Client Mac
    Anyone using this?

    Anyone using it with any success?

    I have the Mac client (2.0.0.15; I don't know whether there's a newer one), and it logged in fine, and now sits at "Getting list ( this may take a moment ) ...". There's a small window at the bottom right of the screen (outside the curse client window) labeled "Downloading" with a blue bar which is completely full, and no evidence of any activity.

    Snooping with tcpdump, I see it's trying to connect to www.curse.com over http, but apparently not liking what it gets.
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    posted a message on The New Curse Client
    Will the Curse Client source or API be made public?

    Do you care whether people reverse-engineer the API?
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    posted a message on WTF just happened?
    Quote from Torhal
    You seem not to suffer under the delusion that yelling will make reality go away. Good for you. :)


    Yeah. Well, that, and I have packet sniffers, and I can run the Mac client, figure out the API, and write something that'll grab addons for me.

    :P

    (I'm about half joking.)
    Posted in: Updaters
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    posted a message on WTF just happened?
    So, I really hate the change. I hate the updater, I am unhappy about it, and I particularly hate the idea of having to run special code to get at the addons in a plausibly efficient manner. (And I don't see any source for that software yet...)

    But come ON. Yes, the people who run the site would like to not go broke paying for it. That's totally legitimate.

    I'm not happy about it by any means, because I really liked being able to always consistently get non-embedded versions of addons (allowing me to be sure that I had only one Ace3, and it was compatible with itself -- when I used embedded addons, I had horrific nightmare problems). But I also don't see much basis for complaining. Unless you were paying for a month's bandwidth at a time in your donations, at least. ;)
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    posted a message on Administrator privileges considered harmful.
    Okay. That actually makes sense.

    I would strongly encourage whoever did the "here's how to go into admin mode" page to explain it in these terms. Key point being, the app DOES NOT need admin privs, and you SHOULD NOT use them -- instead, you should move the WoW folder. Document the admin thing as a workaround, but...

    Won't somebody think of the people who have gotten five keyloggers so far this week? The primary market for this installer is EXACTLY the people who should not be told even that they CAN go into "administrator" mode, let alone how to!
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    posted a message on I'm confused. How do I get my addons?
    Quote from Seerah
    There's also a link to it in several of the announcements made on the front page of the site.


    I'll go look again. I previously looked and did not find any such links; the first thing I found was a link claiming that there wasn't one, and that's still what the Curse page says.
    Posted in: General Chat
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    posted a message on Administrator privileges considered harmful.
    Quote from HunterZ
    So what is your OS, and for that matter what updater are you talking about (and what version)?


    I am talking about the statement on the Curse page that the Curse Client requires administrator privileges.

    I'm not using it. I'm commenting on why there is no way I would ever use it given that information. I'm off in Mac and Linux land writing my own code to scoop things off web sites.

    I just thought I ought to point out that, in general, if a program requires administrator privileges, it is dangerous to run it. Not just because of any alleged risk from the program itself, mind. If you have to be logged in with administrator privileges to use the program, then every time you run it, you're running your computer in an unsafe state. The entire point of separating out administrator privileges is to make it so that ordinary operations cannot do dangerous things. If an ordinary operation requires special privileges, the privileges stop being special -- and the security is gone.
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    posted a message on I'm confused. How do I get my addons?
    Quote from Ydrisselle
    The Mac-version is still beta, but there is one.


    Okay.

    So, let's say I'm a naive new user (and in some ways, I am.)

    Assuming I don't happen to have read the right forum thread, where exactly would I go to find out that such a thing exists?
    Posted in: General Chat
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    posted a message on Administrator privileges considered harmful.
    Quote from HunterZ
    If you're on Vista then it's probably because Vista won't let non-admin mode programs actually update your addons because WoW installs into the Program Files folder by default, which is protected in some weird way.


    I'm not on Vista, and don't plan to be.

    But any time a program's manual says it needs admin privileges, I want either a detailed and cogent explanation of why it should need them, or a different program.
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    posted a message on Administrator privileges considered harmful.
    No. Just, no.

    There is NO reason for a downloader to need administrative privileges on a normally-considered box.

    Causing users to run with administrative privileges is just ASKING for rootkit problems.
    Posted in: Updaters
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