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    posted a message on Unauthorized Addon Sites - Authors Beware!
    Quote from Brimmstone

    On a side note, humans are creatures of habit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but WoWMatrix didn't come to the forefront until WAU was disco'd, because people were happy with WAU and saw no need to change. It's going to take a similar force to get people to move away from WoWMatrix.


    I agree.

    I believe WAU got people into this ingrained habit of starting a program up and clicking an "update all" button before logging in for the night. It's one of the biggest reason I choose for moving many of the addons I use to ace equivalents (that and the illusion that they were necessarily better and more efficient ::roll::). It was sort of needed as if you had different versions of Threat-1.0/Threat-2.0 you have different theat numbers (same goes for boss mods and boss timers)

    Now I have a completely different way of updating my addons. My basic philosophy is "If it isn't broken and/or blowing chunks all over your UI don't update it".

    I have favourites set up for all my addons on all the major addon sites. Only took me about 2-3 hrs to set up. When a new version or build for one of my addons is submitted I get an email. I examine the email to figure if I want to update or not mostly based on if it's broken or not , how broken and if there's any new changes that sound major (hint hint anything that has something about major code revisions or optimisations).

    Takes me a few mins every other day to go through the addon update emails I get. My UI is fairly stable. I have a fairly good idea what's changed with my addons and which addons get regular updates. And I don't need to waste my time with an auto updater program

    PS I gave wowmatrix a go after putting this strategy in . It gave me all the wrong versions to install. Yikes !
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    posted a message on 3.1 - Mod Killer?
    Quote from Xinhuan
    The Dalaran Inscription trainer has a glyph vendor next to him selling *every* known glyph in the game for PTR testers. Blues posted about this before, but for some obscure reason, very few people know about it.


    Actually Xinhuan I was offering them before the glyph vendor was there.

    They weren't there for the first few builds and there were a lot of "special" people on the PTR doing price gouging. Even now I've got 764 glyphs on the AH at 1 copper each just to offset this.

    Also at first when the vendors were put in they would despawn each time the world server would go down.
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    posted a message on 3.1 - Mod Killer?
    Quote from Shadoweric
    the chat filters...


    Regarding the chat filters just found this on the deadlybossmods.com front page :


    A lot of people are currently reporting that DBM breaks their chat on the PTR when using a chat mod like Prat.

    This is not a bug of DBM.

    The reason for this problem is that Blizzard updated their chat filter API and the latest alpha version of DBM already makes use of this updated API.

    But many chat mods still use the old chat filter API, making them incompatible with every mod that uses the new one.

    Having this problem on the live realm means that you installed the alpha of DBM 4.10 there. Please use DBM 4.0.x on the live realm!
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    posted a message on 3.1 - Mod Killer?
    Chatter , DBM , WIM are the addons that didn't immediately work for on the 3.1 PTR.

    Mind you I haven't really installed many addon on the PTR as yet.

    Chatter could do with an update for 3.1 (*prods Antiarc and Grum*) but I'm using Prat-3.0 now (I like the concept of disabling parts of it).

    DBM I heard reports that it was blocking whispers by the crew at deadlybossmods.com are onto. They have declared DBM 4.10 compatiable with the 3.10 PTR and the live realms. Versions previous to 4.10 will not work on the PTR. (just checked that now lol)

    WIM I dont normally use but wanted it as I was offering free glyphs on the PTR and I wanted something to manage my whispers better. I couldn't get it to work so I replaced it with Cellular which does. Cellular still has a problem with Nested preference menus tho so I had to edit the savedvariables .wtf files directly (logically name prefences FTW!)
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    posted a message on WoWGossips : Have a look on your WoW characters
    Nice :D

    Similiar to what the Heathstone app does on Facebook

    http://apps.facebook.com/hearthstone/?ref=sb

    If you wanna have a wee natter with the developer about ideas , tips n tricks and the sort discussion boards is here :
    http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=5245357721
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    posted a message on Another one of those "sites hosting without permission" threads
    Quote from Torhal
    @Xinhuan: Here's your "developer page" on Softpedia.


    Honestly I found that page scary. All but 1 of those addons are out of date :(
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    posted a message on Another one of those "sites hosting without permission" threads
    Quote from Phanx
    "your license terms have nothing to do with ours, and we'll do whatever we want". :rolleyes:


    Yeah and hit em with that DMCA notice of a several thousand dollar fine and they'll soon change their tune ....
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    posted a message on 3.1 PTR New keybinding : Interact with a NPC
    Build 9658 of the 3.1 PTR (current as of this date)

    Go to keybindings -> targeting functions

    "Interact with target"
    "Interact with mouseover"

    I bound F6 to interact with mouse over

    Run to vendor and F6 opens its dialog box ;D

    Works with NPCs you right click normally (this is what I've tested so far)

    I haven't found mention of this in the 3.1 Ui changes thread on the wow forums.....
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    posted a message on PTR and Europe
    yep yep present in build 9658
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    posted a message on [3.1] lots of work incomming ;)
    Quote from Seerah
    Yeah, they're fake. Scanning through, a lot of the class changes are just OP or would piss people off. UI changes encompass too much of what Blizzard leaves to addon and is way too much of an overhaul for a non-expansion patch.


    ^^^^ This

    There is way too many changes listed on those fake patch notes that Blizzard will either never do or they wouldn't be putting them out in a x.x patch like this. Some of the changes are almost expansion level changes.

    Like Orion said : Wait for the next PTR. Then the patch notes will be available from the official wow site.

    PS Also I don't believe the various teams are even near a state where they can have all their changes compiled into a patch notes document anyway
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    posted a message on An idea for an universal update system
    Quote from Seerah
    Just to be clear, fin doesn't parse the addon sites (that would be just like wowmatrix scraping us). He's parsing the rss feeds themselves. Subtle difference, but a difference non-the-less. :)


    Fixed. Thanks :D
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    posted a message on An idea for an universal update system
    Quote from DurdensWrath
    I have a quick question. For programs like WoWMatrix to succeed, addons need to be spread hither and yon between addon sites. What goes into the thought process in placing an addon on one site and not another?


    Clearly it's the free cookies. Curse has Caramel ones. Wowinterface Chocolate ones.

    Quote from DurdensWrath
    Why is there not just one site for all WoW addons? Wouldn't that solve the problem that WowMatrix is exploiting?


    Ok now you're scaring me.

    Different sites offer different stuff for the authors. Different interfaces . They even look different. It's up to the authors which one to use. Among other things it provides redundancy . If you can't access one site you can go to the other. Works well for the addon users as each site has a different set of features.

    IMHO if you had one site you'ld get authors that would refuse to update there. Wheter it's because an admin they don't like or the process to update their addons is too hard .... they will choose to do so. And they would put the addons up on their own site circumventing your whole "one site for all" idea.

    Here's an idea : Take a look at this site : http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods/

    That guy parses all the major addon site's. RSS feeds. From this he gets links to all sites an addon is found on . Think you can even RSS that page too....

    EDIT : He parses the RSS not the pages themselves (thanks Seerah)
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    posted a message on Tale from the UI/Macros forums can't get on
    More info here

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13129066147&postId=131277957339&sid=1#3


    "Alright, starting to get a little irritated about this situation and maybe someone here can finally help me. My old wowace account just miraculously stopped working the other day. I've tried created accounts with both of my emails addresses and it tells me both of them are in use already, which is untrue since I only have one account. Can someone PLEASE just reset my old password so that I can post there again? I'm not creating a 3rd email just to be able to post. I've messaged Kaelten on the wowinterface site twice, and spoken to other people. I don't want to lose all the mail in my inbox on the site.

    I love the wowace site but if no one is willing to help me, since I can't post I'm just going to stop going there. This has been going on for two weeks already with no answer and I can't post on their site, I can't ask what the problem is. "


    Would you guys be able to go to the post linked above and help this dood out ?
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    posted a message on Please Fix Cartographer v2.2
    Quote from OrionShock
    oh, IMO Cartographer-3 > Mapster & InstanceMaps ... i like the google earth effect.


    Me too ...

    but it seems to be bugging out for me. The key binding doesn't bring up the map. It's weird.

    I enable Cart2.2 , keybind to bring it up with "[" and press the "[" key , it comes up. I do the same thing with Cart3.0 and nothing comes up. I change the key to something else and still nothing.

    IDK I'll have another whack at it when I get home (overnight shift + sleep period ftl) . Now that I know it's working for other people gives me the confidence to try again :D
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    posted a message on Addon causing memory allocation error: block too big
    OP I can remember a thread from 3 months ago about CowTip causing memory problems. So no it didn't just come along with 3.0
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