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    posted a message on Litmus
    [2007/08/28 15:23:32-55-x1]: Litmus-1.1\Litmus_display.lua:464: attempt to index local 'color' (a nil value)

    this is from bugsack, so nothing new i am afraid =(
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    posted a message on Litmus
    i will install bugsack/grabber then, and post full log.
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    posted a message on Litmus
    Quote from neolith »

    Quote from lapalapa »

    here it is


    happens in battlegrounds and rarely in outdoor raids.
    i would be most greatful if you can correct this one.
    i think i can reproduce it with bugsack/grabber installed, just if you need it.

    I'll look into it this weekend.
    Did you change the textcolor for Litmus or are you using the default one? Also does this error come randomly or can you make it happen through certain actions?


    not sure about text color, but probably yes.
    i cant exactly reproduce this error, but it happens in almost any PvP "raid" group in BG.
    to reproduce you just have to enter BG, thats all.

    Otto, can you please post your bugsack results?
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    posted a message on Litmus
    here it is


    happens in battlegrounds and rarely in outdoor raids.
    i would be most greatful if you can correct this one.
    i think i can reproduce it with bugsack/grabber installed, just if you need it.
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    posted a message on ace and warhammer online - ?
    Quote from Industrial »

    damnit.

    i've subscribed to the beta months ago and im not in :(

    same.
    tt
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    posted a message on ace and warhammer online - ?
    well the thing which bothers me MOST is how custom interfaces are going to be present in WAR
    second question, if they are going to make a system similar to WoW either will some people from current ace community make addons for it.

    its late, i am sleeping so my english sucks but i think you got my point so discuss.
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    posted a message on Litmus
    any plans on updating this one?
    getting some nasty bugs in raids (especially BGs)
    will post complete log next time i catch it

    litmus is something my interface will barely survive without :(
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    posted a message on Voyeur (Inspect frame improvement)
    Quote from ZealotOnAStick »

    Personally, I'd suggest you check out Examiner.


    tbh, just after posting previos messege i went and installed it :D
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    posted a message on Voyeur (Inspect frame improvement)
    i think i should bump this since Voyeur doesnt cashe items no more starting from that patch when inspect range was enlarged.

    i really miss that ability.
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    posted a message on JasonQuest - Official Thread
    Quote from kosh »

    JASlaughter

    now theres a blast from the past :)


    qft :D
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    posted a message on Antagonist, quartz, chronometer, classtimer, necb
    used chron + ant for a long time, but dumped chron over classtimers.
    still use Antagonist tho because of enemy cooldowns.

    and Quartz is just teh shiz, i dont use buff/debuff bars - class timer does that, but everything else is very sweet.
    its probably one of the best addons over past couple of monthes.
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    posted a message on VisualHeal - Official Thread
    any plans on making it compatibale with sharedmedia lib (for different bar skins?)
    and border options would be awesome.
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    posted a message on Wow, that LG ad is very very very annoying,.
    those people are telling the truith
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    posted a message on Dongle and Ace, a friendly coexistance.
    well i see your point and doubt we will find an agreement =)
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    posted a message on Dongle and Ace, a friendly coexistance.
    Quote from cladhaire »

    You sir, missed the entire point of this thread, and that's unfortunate. We've had a lot of positive discussion here.

    I will summarize as much as possible:
    - Ace is a framework for writing adons
    - Dongle is a different framework for writing addons
    - Kaelten and I both get along quite well, as colleagues and friends
    - Wowace is a community, including the svn, the forums, the wiki and the irc channel
    - Developers write addons
    - Users use addons

    Among other valid points and opinions.. I'm not sure where you think the misconceptions and misunderstanding are here, but your thread is the first evidence I've seen.


    i am not going to argue about what did i miss or what not, really.
    but again, here is where you are wrong:

    Ace and Wowace are part of a bigger thing. they terribly affects each other, the development tool and development community. you really shouldnt separate them - Ace never would look like it does now if not the wowace.com.

    second misunderstanding is about developers write addons users use them - no, ofcourse not.
    first of all, most people here on wowace.com arent USERS, they are more of a betatesters, and sometime creative designers, both of those are jobs, and people in my world get payed for it - just as developers get paid for developing, every SINGLE company that works with IT products has their betatesters who work pretty hard to make final product work good (and sometimes even work, simply)

    so , again
    Ace is tool
    Wowace is environment
    you really shouldnt try to separate them, for, i hope, obvious reasons.
    we are back to where we were - Ace isnt a simply development tool and shouldnt be treated like that

    and
    developing in the wowace environment is far from "devs works users uses" paradigm you are insist on. because its simply not true, devs write code and users betatest and provide creative feedback (i, not a coder in anyway, tho i wrote some addons i use by myself but those are really minor, did at least 3 suggestions which are now incorporated in pretty well known addons including WaUpdater).

    edit
    to clear some things out - i am absoultely not going to argue about Dongle is worser then Ace2, i am not an Ace2 fan as a development tool (but i do love the community) and i am not the one who wants to blame someone or smth.
    my probably emotional attitude right now is based mostly on the fact some very good people left community when they really shouldnt, and all this drama really should be going.
    may be i am a bit fast with conclusions here but at some point i start to feel some elitism in those who proclaim that Dongle is the shiz and Ace2 is a fanbois paradise with no really decent addons huge unnesisery libs and stuff.
    may be its just my eyes or glasses, but thats the picture i've got.
    thats because i critisize those who try to compare Ace and Dongle like you do, Clad. because i really think that its not what should be compared.


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