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    posted a message on The New Curse Client
    Another suggestion to improve CC 2.0.0.15, in addition to the long list I posted at http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=243468&postcount=748.

    On the MacOS version, running in automatic update mode, it's difficult to know when the client has completed its update run, or what it's currently doing. There needs to be some sort of positive confirmation that the update run is complete, so that we know it's ok to quit the client and start WoW. Is 2.0.0.15 still the latest MacOS version?

    Having used it for a week, I'm still less than convinced it's something I'd be willing to pay for (even a small amount). Given the choice between paying for it or writing my own scripts to update from tagged versions in SVN, I currently reckon I'd opt to write my own scripts.

    Lastly, any ETA on disembedded support?
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    posted a message on CurseClient 2.0.0.15 crashing on Mac
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    posted a message on CurseClient 2.0.0.15 crashing on Mac
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    0x946f4000 - 0x94787fff  com.apple.ink.framework 101.3 (86) <bf3fa8927b4b8baae92381a976fd2079> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink
    0x94798000 - 0x9481cfe3  com.apple.CFNetwork 339.5 (339.5) <c6565c13b0356e1d4bb99a68398d558b> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork
    0x9481d000 - 0x9485efe7  libRIP.A.dylib ??? (???) <1f09316e876fe813271bdfb9eb5b229e> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRIP.A.dylib
    0x9485f000 - 0x94c6ffef  libBLAS.dylib ??? (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib
    0x94c70000 - 0x952c0fff  com.apple.WebCore 5525.18.1 (5525.18.1) <9fcf69305c5b48dd8a5cb77107f66c7a> /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore
    0x952c1000 - 0x9533bff8  com.apple.print.framework.PrintCore 5.5.3 (245.3) <222dade7b33b99708b8c09d1303f93fc> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore
    0x953a3000 - 0x953d0feb  libvDSP.dylib ??? (???) <b232c018ddd040ec4e2c2af632dd497f> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
    0x9543f000 - 0x95444fff  com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.4 (85) <ea0665f57cd267609466ed8b2b20e893> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
    0x95445000 - 0x9545bfe7  com.apple.CoreVideo 1.5.1 (1.5.1) <001910004257f1386724398f584b30b5> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/A/CoreVideo
    0x954dc000 - 0x95516fe7  com.apple.coreui 1.2 (62) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/CoreUI
    0x9554a000 - 0x95560fff  com.apple.DictionaryServices 1.0.0 (1.0.0) <ad0aa0252e3323d182e17f50defe56fc> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices
    0x957c2000 - 0x957ceff9  com.apple.helpdata 1.0.1 (14.2) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/HelpData.framework/Versions/A/HelpData
    0x95836000 - 0x9597cff7  com.apple.ImageIO.framework 2.0.4 (2.0.4) <6a6623d3d1a7292b5c3763dcd108b55f> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO
    0x9597d000 - 0x959a1feb  libssl.0.9.7.dylib ??? (???) <c7359b7ab32b5f8574520746e10a41cc> /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib
    0x959a2000 - 0x959a9ff7  libCGATS.A.dylib ??? (???) <973c01cc14f3d673270e269ccfaec660> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCGATS.A.dylib
    0x959aa000 - 0x95ae2ff7  libicucore.A.dylib ??? (???) <3d8fdaf51c2664ab620f1688203caf26> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
    0x95b20000 - 0x95bebfff  com.apple.ColorSync 4.5.1 (4.5.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
    0x95bec000 - 0x96ba1ffe  com.apple.QuickTimeComponents.component 7.5.5 (990.7) /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeComponents.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTimeComponents
    Posted in: Updaters
  • 0

    posted a message on CurseClient 2.0.0.15 crashing on Mac
    CurseClient 2.0.0.15 seems to have a fatal bug on MacOS. It's crashing shortly after launch and is currently unusable as a result. Here's the crash dump:

    Process:         CurseClient [6737]
    Path:            /Applications/World of Warcraft/CurseClient.app/Contents/MacOS/CurseClient
    Identifier:      com.yourcompany.CurseClient
    Version:         ??? (1.0)
    Code Type:       X86 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [87]
    
    Date/Time:       2008-10-23 20:28:56.338 +0100
    OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33)
    Report Version:  6
    
    Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
    Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000000008c
    Crashed Thread:  0
    
    Thread 0 Crashed:
    0   com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x002485bd Curse::Common::Buffer::GetData() + 15
    1   com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x0018ec8c PackageManager::OnReceivePackageForInstall(int, void*, void*) + 708
    2   com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x001a2317 CallbackFunctor<PackageManager>::Call(int, void*, void*) + 109
    3   com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x0002ffec HTTPManager::Perform() + 488
    4   com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x000152cb CClient::OnPerformTimer(wxTimerEvent&) + 17
    5   ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x01244829 wxAppConsole::HandleEvent(wxEvtHandler*, void (wxEvtHandler::*)(wxEvent&), wxEvent&) const + 65
    6   ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012f080c wxEvtHandler::ProcessEventIfMatches(wxEventTableEntryBase const&, wxEvtHandler*, wxEvent&) + 212
    7   ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012f0bf8 wxEventHashTable::HandleEvent(wxEvent&, wxEvtHandler*) + 204
    8   ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012f1dbd wxEvtHandler::ProcessEvent(wxEvent&) + 311
    9   libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00d11156 wxTimerBase::Notify() + 158
    10  libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00c3eaff wxProcessTimer(__EventLoopTimer*, void*) + 69
    11  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x91a26b45 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 4469
    12  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x91a26cf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
    13  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x90156480 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
    14  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x90156299 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
    15  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x9029954b ReceiveNextEvent + 58
    16  libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00bce3bd wxApp::MacDoOneEvent() + 85
    17  libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00bf0de2 wxEventLoop::Dispatch() + 42
    18  libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00cb26dd wxEventLoopManual::Run() + 249
    19  libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00c8387b wxAppBase::MainLoop() + 85
    20  libwx_macud_core-2.8.0.dylib  	0x00c839e9 wxAppBase::OnRun() + 47
    21  ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012895ef wxEntry(int&, wchar_t**) + 167
    22  ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012896ae wxEntry(int&, char**) + 56
    23  com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x00015056 main + 30
    24  com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x000029ae start + 54
    
    Thread 1:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9184b5c6 mach_wait_until + 10
    1   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x93c79c8b MPDelayUntil + 39
    2   ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012e6715 wxThread::Sleep(unsigned long) + 47
    3   com.yourcompany.CurseClient   	0x001abdac PsynThread::Entry() + 484
    4   ...x_base_carbonud-2.8.0.dylib	0x012e7112 wxThreadInternal::MacThreadStart(void*) + 176
    5   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x93c61463 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
    6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187c6f5 _pthread_start + 321
    7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187c5b2 thread_start + 34
    
    Thread 2:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9189b5e2 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187c6f5 _pthread_start + 321
    2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187c5b2 thread_start + 34
    
    Thread 3:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9185268e __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187d36d pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    2   com.apple.ColorSync           	0x95b5345c pthreadSemaphoreWait(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 42
    3   com.apple.ColorSync           	0x95b65d8e CMMConvTask(void*) + 54
    4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187c6f5 _pthread_start + 321
    5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9187c5b2 thread_start + 34
    
    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
      eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x0018e9df  ecx: 0xbfffeb28  edx: 0x00000001
      edi: 0x012447e8  esi: 0x001a22aa  ebp: 0xbfffebc8  esp: 0xbfffebc0
       ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010286  eip: 0x002485bd   cs: 0x00000017
       ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
      cr2: 0x0000008c


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    Posted in: Updaters
  • 0

    posted a message on The New Curse Client
    Well, I'm going to try to avoid going over old ground - suffice to say that I'm a long term power-user of Ace addons and quite disenchanted with the change. It's currently a long way from a change for the better from my perspective. I only hope that it doesn't take too long before it at least breaks even with what we have lost.

    I'm a Mac user, and had 285 Ace modules installed prior to today, using WUU's SmartUpdate feature to both stay current and minimise bandwidth. I previously had a very high opinion of Ace, despite the perpetual bleeding edge nature of it. I've refrained from commenting so far, as I wanted to see how things were going to play out, but now (on patch day), I find myself in a less than satisfactory position.

    At present, the Mac CC 2.0.0.15 really doesn't feel any better than clunky and mediocre. I'm sorry to say that about it, but that's how I feel about it, and I think honesty is far more important than diplomacy in this case. It does nothing to convince me that I should become a paying customer of Curse. That's a bad thing for the community, as I do understand bandwidth costs and the need to try to raise some revenue. First impressions last, and it takes a long time to correct a bad first impression.

    Anyway, those are my general thoughts on the change and the current state of things. Here are some specific problems with and suggestions for CC 2.0.0.15 on Mac, as it stands today:

    1. I've started with an empty addons folder for 3.0, as the task of addressing all of the 550 addon modules in my old 2.4 folder was too huge to complete quickly, with essentially no usable assistance from CC (my old install was disembedded / no-exts). Starting from a clean slate was also necessary to eliminate addons which are unlikely to be updated any time soon (such as most of Cosmos :-( ).
    2. The status box text is so small as to be nearly unreadable, and has an alien Windows type minimise button that doesn't gell well with the MacOS desktop. The text size is the main issue, and it's a problem on both my 13", 1280x800 MacBook; and my 24", 1920x1200 iMac.
    3. Starting with an empty Interface/Addons folder in the default location (/Applications/World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons), it didn't install in the correct place - my first installation attempt landed in the main WoW folder.
    4. When fiddling with the "Set WoW Directory" option to try to fix the installation path, it erroneously complained that there was no WoW.exe on the system (it's a Mac, we don't have .exe files).
    5. The lack of version number display in both the "Find an Addon" and "World of Warcraft" tabs is very annoying (it needs to be in the lists, it's not viable to click on each addon to see it when you have hundreds of addons). Similarly, the lack of indication of whether a particular addon is release, beta, or alpha is a bit of a problem.
    6. The TOC interface version number should also be (optionally) displayed in the lists - it can be very useful in determining addons that are possibly stale and in need of attention.
    7. There doesn't seem to be a way to concisely view the available and installed versions (both by status and version number). Over the years, I've frequently had to revert to an older version of an addon when the latest turned out to be bad (including the latest "release" version on Curse in some cases). We need a pull-down list of all available versions, filtered by the global release type preference and per-addon preference.
    8. Disembedded / no-exts / load on demand. This is an essential feature for power users. I appreciate that we may need to wait for 3.0.3 before this is fully viable on the WoW end of things. It minimises download bandwidth, and, more importantly, minimises load time. With hundreds of individual modules, it's a show stopper for this to be missing - the game times out before all the modules can load.
    9. CurseProfiler. At the very least, this should be given the appearance of opt-in, with a popup window announcing its installation, and preferrably requiring users to click (a default) "Yes". I already submit data to both Thottbot and Wowhead, so I'm not completely against such things. What is missing here is the feeling of positive opt-in, and a sales pitch for why I should want to opt-in (the benefit for Thottbot and Wowhead is immediately obvious). This addon is going to be permanently disabled on my systems until it's sold to me as a good thing.
    10. An optional text log file (Unix style with date/timestamps would be ideal) would be extremely useful for tracking what has changed and when. In the event of problems, being able to see something like "Oct 15 12:22:43 update: MegaAdd v1234 (2008/04/01, release) -> MegaAdd v1390 (2008/10/12, beta)" would be extremely useful. This log should grow over time and never be cleared without positive confirmation from the user, building a medium/long-term history of what has been installed/updated/uninstalled.
    11. The lists need to be sortable by clicking on the column headings.
    12. The "Find an Addon" tab needs a way to filter the available addons to only Ace addons, and then allow text search within that sub-set. Ideally, it also needs a one-line (60-80 characters) description of each addon.
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