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    posted a message on Bartender3 - Action Bar AddOn for WoW 2.0
    I didn't know where to ask for this feature so i put it AddOn Ideas and Requests, but now that i am thinking maybe i should have asked it here, sorry for the inconveniance (oups)

    I was wondering if it was possible to change the Opacity of some Buttons depending on if you can or can't do your Skill:
    http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7480.0
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    posted a message on [Request] Feature in Bartender3 - Different Opacity on Buttons
    Hey,

    Would it be possible to change the 'Opacity' of a skill button you can't do on your actionbars.
    When i say the skill button you can't do i mean for example:
    - You don't have enough mana to do the skill
    - You don't have enough rage to do t he skill
    - Your Target is too far

    For example:
    - if you can do the skill, the Opacity of the Button (let's say mortal strike) is 100%
    - If you don't have enough Rage the Opacity of the Button is 0% (completely invisible)
    - If your Target is too far the Opacity of the skill is 60% (translucent)

    (I think this feature exists in Flexbar, but i never used Flexbar, so i don't really know)

    Ps: i know i am not very original, but sorry for my broken english.
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    posted a message on Bartender3 - Action Bar AddOn for WoW 2.0
    Quote from Lewzephyr »

    Quote from khao »


    A way to fix the thing is (thanks Sayan for that)to edit Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua
    Find "AnyUp" and change it by "AnyDown"


    I made this change, and boy do I like it much better... feels more responsive to my actions.
    Maybe Author could make it an option for either or.

    Thanks for the info.


    how do you explain this ?
    ...

    Anyway i give up, I probably don't explain well.

    Back in the days bartender was insanely great for that, it's not the case anymore, Bartender is still a very good addon, not on this tho.

    If you guys are seeking for reactivity, trinity bars is just completely insane, they really did a great job
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    posted a message on Bartender3 - Action Bar AddOn for WoW 2.0
    There is an option to lock or unlock your action bars
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    posted a message on Bartender3 - Action Bar AddOn for WoW 2.0
    Quote from Nevcairiel »

    Quote from khao »

    Quote from Lewzephyr »

    Quote from khao »


    A way to fix the thing is (thanks Sayan for that)to edit Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua
    Find "AnyUp" and change it by "AnyDown"


    I made this change, and boy do I like it much better... feels more responsive to my actions.
    Maybe Author could make it an option for either or.

    Thanks for the info.


    Damn, someone saw my post, thanks for reading it !

    Well for me bartender3 without this option is completely unusable, it's crazy people didn't see that before. People seems more focused on doing screenshots to see how their UI looks good and forget to play the game. Right now with an action being done 'OnRelease' is just completely unplayable, unless the only thing you do is chatting in Ironforge or Orgrimmar.
    No fast game (where you need fast reactivity) can be played with an action that is done 'on release' of the key believe me, it's my job to configure this kind of things.

    I wish we could have the 'pressed icon' back in real time, and not lagged as it is now. Until then for me bartender3 isn't the best anymore, bongos wins ... i truly hope it will change :/

    Don't forget it's a video game the 'fast reactivity' is more important (at least for me and i hope for you too) than little graphical things that make your screenshots look good.

    Anyway that doesn't change the fact that the Bartender team have done a real great job!


    Its default game behaviour this way. And you have 1.5s global cooldown, in that time you can press the new key and release it the instance the gcd is over


    No, We are not talking about the same thing. I am talking about 2 things:

    1. The 'pressed icon'
    - I explained in my first post (the best i could) what i was referring to when i was talking about the 'pressed icon'. Right now, it's removed from bartender3 and i wish i knew how to put it back in it.

    2. On Release vs On Press
    - If you are referring to the 'on release' when you say 'it's the defgault game behaviour'. Then no, the default behaviour of the Blizzard UI is to do the skill when you 'Press' the button and not when you 'Release' the button.
    this:

    edit Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua
    Find "AnyUp" and change it by "AnyDown"

    Fixes it for bartender3

    About the universal cooldown, all the skills aren't affected by the Universal Cooldown, and anyway that's not the problem here :) i guarantee you having an action triggered 'on release' is horrible compared to one triggered 'on press'.

    You can always answer me 'yea but if your fingers are very fast you won't have any problems' or 'if you don't play world of warcraft you won't have any problem with bartender3' and you will be right :) i am just pointing out a problem that some actionbars don't have (that is fixable by the line pasted above).
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    posted a message on Bartender3 - Action Bar AddOn for WoW 2.0
    Quote from Lewzephyr »

    Quote from khao »


    A way to fix the thing is (thanks Sayan for that)to edit Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua
    Find "AnyUp" and change it by "AnyDown"


    I made this change, and boy do I like it much better... feels more responsive to my actions.
    Maybe Author could make it an option for either or.

    Thanks for the info.


    Damn, someone saw my post, thanks for reading it !

    Well for me bartender3 without this option is completely unusable, it's crazy people didn't see that before. People seems more focused on doing screenshots to see how their UI looks good and forget to play the game. Right now with an action being done 'OnRelease' is just completely unplayable, unless the only thing you do is chatting in Ironforge or Orgrimmar.
    No fast game (where you need fast reactivity) can be played with an action that is done 'on release' of the key believe me, it's my job to configure this kind of things.

    I wish we could have the 'pressed icon' back in real time, and not lagged as it is now. Until then for me bartender3 isn't the best anymore, bongos wins ... i truly hope it will change :/

    Don't forget it's a video game the 'fast reactivity' is more important (at least for me and i hope for you too) than little graphical things that make your screenshots look good.

    Anyway that doesn't change the fact that the Bartender team have done a real great job!
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    posted a message on Bartender3 - Action Bar AddOn for WoW 2.0
    Hey guys, i got two problems with Bartender3, both are bound to the gameplay feeling of Bartender3.
    (I apologize in advance for this thread, since English isn't my first language :p)

    1. My first problem:
    When you press a key, there are basically 3 states,
    - Press (your finger press the key of the keyboard)
    - Hold (the key is pressed by your finger staying on the key)
    - Release (you release the button, you stop pressing on it)

    Right now with Bartender3 the action is done on Release (last step).
    Basically it means that if you press a skill (ie: pummel), hold the button during 1sec, then release your button, it will do the 'pummel' action 1sec after you pressed the button.

    A way to fix the thing is (thanks Sayan for that)to edit Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua
    Find "AnyUp" and change it by "AnyDown"

    2. I will try to explain the second problem step by step (sorry for the english again)
    When you press a key (on any action bars, including blizzard actionbars), there is a 'press button' icon above the icon that indicate you are pressing the button.

    Example:
    - You put mortal strike on your 2ND slot (the 2ND slot now have a mortal strike icon)
    - Your 2ND slot is bound on the key '2'
    - you press the key '2', you see your Mortal Strike icon 'pressed' (what they do is add an icon above your mortal strike icon so you feel it's pressed).

    That's the base.


    Back in the days when you were using discordmods or bongos, if you would spam the same key in a very short time, for example 5 times in 1 sec, you would see the 'pressed icon' during the whole 1sec instead of quickly 5 times.

    That's a feeling i personally dislike, i like to feel that when i spam a button, i see the button being spammed at exactly the same time.

    That was one of the big reason why i was using bartender2.
    Being able to feel like the blizzard bars, with great design, AND if i wasn't at home (without addons), my bars wouldn't be completely messed up.

    Right now, Bongos finally figured something out, because they now have the same feeling as blizzard bars, when you spam a button, you see the 'pressed icon' the same number of time you spam the button.
    Unfortunately now Bartender3 does like the old discordmods or old bongos :/

    Do you think it would be possible to go back to the good old 'spam feeling' ?

    Anyway, I have been using Bartender2 (and now bartender3) since a very long time and i love it ! very good job guys.
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