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    posted a message on Ace3-Sektion
    Quote from Nakawe »

    The problem is you guys, developers of ace3, have such a good reputation of creating decent solid addons, that your always going to get fanbois. Is this really a bad thing? I look at it as double edged sword at times. If you guys-n-gals wasnt so damn good this problem wouldnt exist. I know when I see funkydude, ck, tekkub, ammo, rabbit, cladhaire, xinhuan and several others names on an addon, I know damn well the addon is going to work and work well in most cases. The other side is, if ace of any level, 1,2,or 3 sucked you wouldnt get this hysteria.

    My advice is take your due credit and accept the fact you guys are damn good and promote the hell out of ace3. It doesnt take long after loading an ace3 mod that the user like myself realizes that the fuctionality of it far surpasses any prior ace library to date.

    I agree with Nakawe that there are a lot of good authors here on this forum. I probably have addons by each one of those developers.

    Isn't the main problem here is that END-USERS also can read the forum? Don't know about you guys, but the "END USERS" collection of people is greater than "DEVELOPERS". After all, I was an "END USER", but, after diving into learning how to write addons, I'm also now in the "DEVELOPER" (only a beginner though) section.

    I also believe that it is the AUTHOR/DEVELOPER that makes a good addon and NOT the framework. As proven by Seerah. I love Cladhaire's Clique addon (and it is not using Ace).

    You all should just drop the number in Ace and just call it Ace. This way "END USERS" will "advertise" it as Ace and not Ace2 or Ace3 with an implied notion that the higher the number the better it is. A common concept in END USERS.

    But, since I'm also a developer, I'd like to see a grouping of the "Ace Versions". Make comparisons between Ace2 or Ace3. Developer stuff... stuff that End-Users just make it overly complex to begin with.

    When I started working with addons, I don't know what "framework" to base my addon(s). I was an clean-slab of what may hopefully be developer-goodness.

    I've asked people what framework should I base my addon. I've gotten a lot of suggestions and what not, but, I ended up with Ace2. Why? I find more documentation about that framework than any other framework (this was when Ace3 is just being talked about). I liked the "My First Ace Addon" tutorial which what I use to jump-start my addon writing.

    Now, I'd like to look at Ace3 as lots of good addons uses it. But, that is just the developer in me. Wanting things to be a bit more efficient, clean etc. Good thing there is an Ace3 Framework section in the Developer's Corner.

    END-USERS are not stupid either.

    People are talking about how Ace3 is efficient this... smaller that... etc. You can't really blame the END-USERS of wanting to diminish the "resources" their own computer's WoW Client uses. Hence the hoop-la about getting Ace3 sections or whatnot.

    Heck, just drop the "framework naming" of the addons as it really mean little to nothing to an END-USER.


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    posted a message on lua table references
    Quote from lilsparky »


    okay, so then i could do something like:

    myaddon.currentDataSet = myaddon.db.server.professionData[selectedPlayer][selectedProfession]

    and then read/write to myaddon.currentDataSet to alter the database i'm using, right?


    how is lua smart about recreating tables?

    like, if i do:

    a = {}
    a.name = "fred"
    a.number = 100

    then

    b = {}
    b.name = "fred"
    b.number = 100


    will "a" and "b" point to the same table internally? i suspect not, but lua continues to surprise me.





    My guess is that both a and b will be two different tables.
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    posted a message on Addon to show guild alts
    Quote from fibby »

    Suppose you have 8 people in your guild, and only 3 of them are online atm. Standard window displays them as follows:

    Alice
    Bob
    Charlie
    Devon
    Elan
    Freddy
    Garry
    Helen

    Now, suppose that Charlie and Freddy are Alice's alts, and similarly Bob is Elan's alt. Then an addon can display them as:

    Charlie
    Alice
    Freddy
    Devon
    Elan
    Bob
    Garry
    Helen

    with all the other information (like class/level/zone/rank) unchanged.

    Information about who's whose alt can be fetched from Public/Officer Note, or entered manually.

    It seems link you are asking something like what AndyWise asked a couple of weeks ago.

    http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11286.0

    He also posted a thread in the Code Discussion forum about this.

    While it is a "Friends" list, guilds are also friends-list type (i.e. in the social frame). :)

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    posted a message on Interested in creating custom buttons
    Quote from Elloria »

    I apologize in advance if I'm not posting in the correct forum. I'm looking for a way to create some buttons for a few interfaces that I am creating. Is there some way i can edit either the code of an existing action bar mod to do this or am i going to be creating my own addon for this? Or lol is there some alternative way to do what im asking here is a screenie to show what i mean. The purple buttons i would like to look just like in the picture but each one of course having a function. Kinda like what mazzle did with his ui

    http://i29.tinypic.com/10zp7qu.jpg

    any help would be appreciated

    I think you can use the CreateFrame API to create a button. Then with the aid of the /dump command, you can set the settings of the "frame" to the appearance of the purple button (Textures and whatnot).

    Then add an OnClick event and use the corresponding API to open the Character Frame, Talents, etc (like the existing Blizzard Menu buttons).

    I don't think opening those menu option frames are protected.

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    posted a message on WideQuestLog
    Quote from Quokka »

    I think it's fine if you have premision, or you just use it for personal use.

    I agree with you there.

    Blatantly copying another's code without their permission is just bad form. Even if you change the variable names or even order of the functions, still doesn't count.

    Now, if you are Microsoft, just buy the license from the author, change the name, and re-release it. :) (MS-DOS anyone).

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    posted a message on Friend list enhanced
    Quote from AndyWise »

    Good idea .. Some features wouldn't be available then (like group invite and whisper as originally intended) .. But that doesn't have anything to do with the base goal of the addon - sorting.
    I would make it a choise/option.

    Would it also allow more than 50 friends (or whatever limit to the number of friends an account can have)?
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    posted a message on Friend list enhanced
    So, "ExampleName" or "ListName" would theoretically be the WoW Account name? And the character names listed within the group will be the characters played by the player account.




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    posted a message on Item roll - ? needed
    Quote from Starinnia »

    Because he asked a specific question without including links to addons that have nothing to do with the actual requested addon.

    You want this type of addon, yet you start by asking about an addon that tells you, the player, if you should roll on a specific item. You gave us no clear idea of what you really wanted. Jello, on the other hand, gave us a short and concise request/question, which we were actually able to answer. You forced us to speculate about what you really wanted. Deal with it and get over it.

    I'm going to mess this up but, this was an example of "supienza eloquentia".

    You know what you want, but unfortunately you could not explain it eloquently.

    Eventually, you (author of the Ninja Addon thread) lost your "cool" and started to get agitated/impatient which caused the repliers to get more cynical.

    Welcome to the forums. ;)
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    posted a message on Skillet - Official Thread
    Welcome back!
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    posted a message on Table browsing
    Quote from Bam »

    Now I'm confused too about what you are doing. I thought you just wanted to pick X number of values from the table. It makes little sense talking about the n'th value in a non-array table. A non-array table has no ordering. Or more precisely, the ordering is undefined.

    This is why when I look at the "saved" table (used by AceDB), the actual placement of the "key" entry is at the top in one instance, and then when the table gets saved again, the same "key" entry can be at the bottom of the list.

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    posted a message on ReagentHelper
    Thanks for the link.

    I didn't know Mendeleev(Dmitri) was the inventor/designor of the atomic periodic table.

    Learned something new...
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    posted a message on Table browsing
    Quote from Thaoky »

    Well, the thing is, I cannot break the loop anytime.

    If for instance the table contains 20 entries, and I want to loop from the 10th to the 15th, I could not break before 10, but I could after 15, which is what I'm doing right now.

    But nevermind, I worked around this issue, and it's not a problem anymore :)

    Thanks anyway

    Thao

    When loop through the table with 20 entries, how do you know if you are on the entry between 10th and 15th entries?

    Can you give a sample of the table you are looping through?
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    posted a message on Making my WoW playing computer independent
    Quote from Slakah »

    Think so.. but you may have to muck about with the position of stuff if he plays at a different resolution.

    I think the resolution settings are saved in the WTF. So as long as his computer can support my resolution settings at home, I shouldn't need to move stuff.

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    posted a message on Making my WoW playing computer independent
    Let's say I started with a brand-new WoW installation.

    Grabbed all of the patches, installed the addons I'd like to use and lastly, configured the addons I use the way I like it.

    Then I learned that I'll be spending a few days in a relative's(or friend for that matter) house. I also learned that my relative(friend) is also playing WoW.


    What folders should I copy and place in my trusty USB stick so that I can use my relative's(friend's) WoW program and it will behave like my WoW at home?

    Are Interface\AddOns and WTF the only two folders needed?

    (Yes, of course I'll back up my relative's(friend's) folders before I install mine).

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