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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/API_SplitContainerItem

     

    It doesn't appear to be protected, but I haven't looked too deeply into the cursor or inventory functions.

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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    I thought I would do some research.

    1. Twitch bought Curse Inc August 16, 2016 
    2. The Twitch App beta, which integrated addon support from Curse, launched March 16, 2017
    3. Full changeover from Curse Client v5 to the Twitch App occurred August 10, 2017

    That means that everybody had anywhere between four and 16 months' notice of the Curse Client v5's eventual demise. The replacement Twitch App may not have existed until March of this year, but if anyone applied logical thought to Twitch buying Curse, it was inevitable that a new client would be developed, simply because Twitch would want integration of its services into a singular app that also provided Curse's services.

     

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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Okay, I have to admit this up front: I don't work for Twitch; I'm just a volunteer moderator. And if what you are saying is true, then perhaps there was or is a better way to inform people that the Curse Client was defunct.

     

    The only reason I have a standoffish attitude to the shock and surprise regarding the lack of support and end of life that may have taken people by surprise is that I have been around computers and software in general a long, long, long time.

     

    I have seen the end of DOS, various Windows and macOS versions, mobile OSes come and go, and to the point of addon updaters for games, I've seen them get updated over the years too.

     

    Way back in the day, there was the Wowace Updater before Curse had their own. Then Curse Client 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 (Windows only) and 5.0. Plus I've seen a couple of versions of Minion and a few independent updaters. Throughout all of them, there were notices posted from their respective companies. Maybe the notices weren't kept up long enough or weren't renewed near end of life for the programs.

     

    What I do know for certain is that in each and every case, months before a version was retired, a new version was released. As far as I am concerned, the existence of a newer program is a massive, can't ignore, crystal clear announcement in huge bold letters that it is time to upgrade and switch to the newer version.

     

    Am I missing something? That could be possible, but I honestly do not understand why the "sudden" demise of the Curse Client v5 is "unexpected" or "sudden" or "came out of nowhere" or "didn't let people know". As soon as the Twitch App launched several months ago, that was the bright flag announcement.

     

    To me, this discussion is similar to someone being surprised at Windows XP, Vista, 8.1, "suddenly" not being supported by Microsoft as soon as Windows 10 came out. Yes, I know some of those were stopped before 10, but that isn't the point. The point is that as soon as Microsoft released a new version of Windows, that new version was the gigantic billboard in Times Square in and of itself that told everybody that the prior version was going to die and that people need to upgrade.

     

    The Twitch App appearing as the downloadable updater was all the notice anyone needed. So again, I really, truly, honestly, have zero idea why anyone is mad or shocked. Was there insufficient notice in the v5 itself? Maybe, maybe not, but nobody could possibly miss that the v5 was not available to download months and months ago, replaced by the Twitch App.

     

    Oh yes. If I sound  like I "don't care", it is because I am baffled why this thread, the outrage, shock, and surprised even exists. Does that make me insensitive? If so, I'm sorry. I mean that. I am apologizing. But that still doesn't explain how or why people are shocked, mad, or surprised.

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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Sorry, I haven't logged into these forums in a while. Remind me, which code did I provide?

    Posted in: Map/Minimap AddOns
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Okay, I am certainly not going to try to twist anyone's arm or put the proverbial gun to your head, but....

     

    • There IS a standalone version of the app. You are not required to use the browser version.
    • Twitch App is compatible with both Mac and Windows, something the Curse Client hasn't been in a few versions.
    • As soon as Twitch bought Curse and introduced the Twitch App that was the sign to switch, because...
    • The Curse Client hasn't had updates in a very long time, yet Twitch App gets them regularly.

    Also, I recall (but can't find) a post or message well over a year ago that explained that the Curse Client was obsolete and no longer supported, and it was replaced with the Twitch App. Regardless of me not being able to find that message, the mere existence of the Twitch App was a crystal clear indicator that users ought to switch.

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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    I thought there was a post saying that updates would stop in the old Curse Client, but I can't find it if it existed. In any case, the CC has been dead for over a year, possibly longer.

     

    What you are reporting is not a bug, it is a "duh, progress" situation. As soon as Twitch bought Curse and introduced the Twitch App, people ought to have converted and updated because its mere existence indicated eventual failure in the Curse Client.

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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    It might sound unrelated, but it probably is: what is the file & path location of your World of Warcraft installation? Not being able to write saved variables usually has something to do with that. If your game install looks similar to the quote below, that is your problem 99%  of the time.

    C:\Program Files(x86)\World of Warcraft

    Posted in: AddOn HELP!
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Why update by hand? What isn't working as you thought it would with the Twitch App?

    Posted in: WoW Sites Feedback
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Yep, you need to switch to the Twitch App.

    Posted in: WoW Sites Feedback
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    You can't see Legion chests because they haven't been added to GM2 or GM2_Data. I use HandyNotes and a Legion chest plugin for those.

    Posted in: AddOn HELP!
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    This is why embeds.xml is such a pain in the ass –– people lose track of things.

     

    Anyway, do you have a Libs folder with the individual Ace* folders inside? Your SVN checkout might not have them so you will need to temporarily create the folder.

    Posted in: Need Help?
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Thanks @SloKnightfall I had no idea that WoWGatheringNodes existed. Good stuff!

    Posted in: Map/Minimap AddOns
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    Those are Blizzard bugs, yes, even though WeakAuras is getting the blame.

    Posted in: AddOn HELP!
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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    The other thing I forgot to mention above is that the world marks require hardware input, ex: mouse or keyboard. Also, the marks themselves have no x/y coordinates to either set or get their positions. As addon authors we cannot "see" where they are in the world. For that matter, the unit marks can be assigned programatically (NPCScan and all boss mods do it) but we cannot retreive the data on wich unit has which raid mark.

     

    What I mean by the raid marks is that we can assign {skull} to boss2 or target or party3 or raid11, but we cannot do the reverse. If {skull} is on raid11, we cannot target {skull} and get raid11. We can scan units and check if a particular raid marker is on said unit, but then you'd have to cycle through every partyN, raidN, target, targettarget, targettargettarget, bossN, focus, pets, and all their target chains to see if a raid mark is on said unit. If not, cycle through the entire lot again for the next raid mark. Rinse, repeat. Your frame rate would plummet and your CPU would bog down.

     

    So like I said, the world marks idea isn't really possible, and the raid mark version is next to insane.

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    posted a message on Myrroddin

    While technically not on the "can't be done list", world raid markers must be applied manually as there is no way to place them automatically. Besides, you are asking for something that would change for each and every fight in the entire game, isn't future proof, and generally isn't feasible.

    Posted in: Addon Ideas
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