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Quote from Dridzt

You say that like it's so obviously a good thing.

Some of us are using BigWigs because it's the closest thing to a tactic-agnostic boss mod.
(to get warnings, not strat or hand holding)

How long before that "feature" starts creeping into the main functions?

Edit: Are you getting a revenue cut from websites, pro-guilds etc feeding you tips?
If it catches on you might have a nice case of selling ad-space there without
actually breaking the addon guidelines as you're not charging or soliciting donation
from the users themselves.
(they're just the masses of uneducated raiders and your unwitting audience)

Edit2: It's unfortunate that this was brought up, it made me look the page describing
the feature up and actually read it. The more I did so the more sick to my stomach I got.
Pity there's no such thing as selective amnesia, now that I know of it it will keep bothering me.

Just turn it off. It's that simple. Don't want it? Don't have to.

i am still confused

how can i pop out message through say channel

i can find an option about it

maybe i am a noob

Quote from waterelf

i am still confused

how can i pop out message through say channel

i can find an option about it

maybe i am a noob

You can't and you never could. Some warnings are set to /say, like Shadow Crash on General Vezax (''Shadow blast on ME!!'').

Quote from KnThrak

From looking at things the three bossmods are currently clearly emphasizing their own unique features and getting developed that way.

I've always viewed BigWigs as the "minimal and elegant" boss mod. There have always been a few options I wished the devs would add, but the addon has been very usable without those things, and I preferred it over DBM and DXE because of its simplicity. I've also appreciated how BigWigs has avoided adding strategy-dependent features. However, adding promotional fluff like "raid tips from <insert big guild here>" is a pretty clear deviation from that original design, and is neither minimal nor elegant.

I know a lot of people who use BigWigs and swear by it. They like it because it's simple, clean, easy to set up, and works with little to no configuration. I also know a lot of people who use DBM and swear by it. They like it because it "does more" and has a lot of options to play with. I really can't imagine either type of user incorporating "it gives me advice from big guilds on how to raid" into their rationale for which boss mod they use, but I can very easily imagine either one using it as a rational for which boss mod they don't use. :p

Quote from Bobbywich

Just turn it off. It's that simple. Don't want it? Don't have to.

It's not that simple. Even if I "just turn it off", I'm still loading the database of "raid tips" that will likely never stop being added to. It's still wasting RAM space and forcing me to spend more time waiting through the loading screen. If this kind of thing were a separate plugin, like CommonAuras, I'd have no problem with it whatsoever. I just don't think it belongs in the core.

Quote from Phanx

However, adding promotional fluff like "raid tips from <insert big guild here>" is a pretty clear deviation from that original design, and is neither minimal nor elegant.

..snip.. I really can't imagine either type of user incorporating "it gives me advice from big guilds on how to raid" into their rationale for which boss mod they use, but I can very easily imagine either one using it as a rational for which boss mod they don't use. :p

I assume most of the guilds included are the ones contributing to the boss timers/warnings themselves, and that 'cutting edge info' is important for boss mods especially as PTR testing is becoming more limited. So people can incorporate "it gives me the latest, more accurate info" into their rationale for which boss mod they use. If the BW authors get logs from these guilds to help make BW better overall, I see the raid tips with the 'advertising' as a little thank you. I know that many people choose BW because it's more up to date/accurate than DBM.

Quote from Phanx

It's not that simple. Even if I "just turn it off", I'm still loading the database of "raid tips" that will likely never stop being added to. It's still wasting RAM space and forcing me to spend more time waiting through the loading screen. If this kind of thing were a separate plugin, like CommonAuras, I'd have no problem with it whatsoever. I just don't think it belongs in the core.

It probably should be a separate addon like CommonAuras. But seriously consider investing in a new computer/RAM if it's that bad for you, the data can't be too big, wasting RAM space is such a lame excuse since it's cheap and doesn't matter (we're talking MB if that). The tips when finished later, I assume, would be LOD anyway.

Quote from sayntavarice

But seriously consider investing in a new computer/RAM if it's that bad for you, the data can't be too big, wasting RAM space is such a lame excuse since it's cheap and doesn't matter (we're talking MB if that). The tips when finished later, I assume, would be LOD anyway.

Don't go down that road. Memory is always an issue, even if you only use 10MiB across all your addons. Just throwing more silicone at the problem doesn't fix bad code.

Quote from sayntavarice

I know that many people choose BW because it's more up to date/accurate than DBM.

Interestingly, I've often heard the opposite from DBM fans. :p

Quote from sayntavarice

But seriously consider investing in a new computer/RAM if it's that bad for you, the data can't be too big, wasting RAM space is such a lame excuse since it's cheap and doesn't matter (we're talking MB if that).

Are you going to buy me a new computer and/or more RAM? "Cheap" is subjective; maybe you can afford to spend money on unnecessary hardware, but I can't. In fact, if my computer exploded tomorrow, I wouldn't be able to replace even a single part of it. There's nothing to consider, seriously or otherwise.

Also, "buy a new computer" is almost never a technologically correct response to someone expressing concern about the resource usage of a WoW addon. It's the principle of the matter, not a practical problem.

Finally, "it's not necessary to use that much memory" is not even close to the same thing as "my computer can't handle it".

To compound on the BW vs DBM actuality, you are all nabbs because everyone knows DXE is the most up-to-date bossmod. No wonder you are wiping!

If i want to try another bossmod i will... so whats your point about telling us that DXE exists?

It was sarcasm...

I've noticed that the shadow strike timers seem to reset randomly, at least with alpha builds. I'm on r6662 atm. I'm thinking this may be due to bigwigs syncing possibly with more stable releases without the changes to the timers maybe?

Latest BigWigs Alpha has nifty options to change the colors per toggleoption.
If you're running svn checkouts make sure to update your Ace3 to latest as well or the color options will be tiny

-Ammo

As someone who asked for it, let me say thanks for adding an option to control Bossblock. Much appreciated.

Quote from Shadoweric

As someone who asked for it, let me say thanks for adding an option to control Bossblock. Much appreciated.

You praise for the wrong kind of things. Really you do. Turning off bossblock is just wrong. WRONG. I tell you!

Now if you were to say 'WOW thanks for those AWESOME color overrides per option in bosses' I'd say 'No problem at all, that was planned all along'