Version 1.5.6
* Added boss kill group attendance configuration.
* Added boss kill snapshot attendee removal.
* Added optional note to to wait list add whisper command.
* Added wait list contact note whisper command.
* Added wait list information to XML export format.
* Added wait list whisper notification configuration option.
* Added refresh button for export screen.
* Added returns and feeds for all export string lines.
1. Users can define which players are automatically included for attendance in a boss kill.
2. Wait list functionality was added for users to add contact notes.
There were be fewer releases for awhile due to real-life commitments. I will update sooner if any major bugs are found or if new instances are added.
If a developer is interested in pushing more active feature content, please feel free to message me if you are interested in joining development.
I'm curious if there was any further consideration for the sync feature discussed earlier in the thread. The problem we're facing is that we have a raid leader handling loot via master looting and the raid continues clearing the instance. This means that loot events are often missed by the master looter's instance of HC but are captured by another. We then have to merge XML exports to get a complete picture of the run or manually add individual items (thanks for that element!).
The sync feature would also provide some redundancy for the hard crash situation also discussed earlier when an entire loot log is lost. Reloading the UI periodically is possible but other mods such as our DKP tools may not recover as well as HC is currently.
Another consideration would be to provide an API for receiving loot events and costs. We could add something to DKPmon/Bidder (the loot mods we use) to send HC a message as loot is awarded. We like the UI and overall tracking HC provides.
If any of this has merit, I'm happy to write up the appropriate ticket(s).
I would like to add synchronization. Probably loot synchronization would be the most sensible thing to do first due to the range limitations. However, I just don't have the same amount of time to work on the addon as I used, so this isn't a priority at this time.
My guild is using some short of mainspec, offspec, trash, DE and bank loot rules.
Means your choose your spec (ret pala for example), and if a ret pala item drops, you and every other Ret pala + Other people that can use that item for their main spec can roll. If you get something for your mainspec, you cant roll on another main spec item until everyone else have got one or pass on it.
Pretty much the same for offspec. Trash is for everyone, DE and Bank is pretty clear ;)
Now people got short memory, and quickly forget if they got anything during the raid week already.
Plan was to use a addon to count who got what, and put it on our forums.
We tried NRT and headcount so far. NRT have the + that it shows the notes you typed in for a item, but it isnt really the best for it, as it have notes for every item, instead of a item + player that got it. Means if "Gloves of pwnage" drops, and i get is as mainspec and type it into NRT, and someone else get the same item as offspec, it whould say for both mainspec or offspec, whatever i typed in last.
Headcount dosent show notes at all in the output, and thats the only problem with it.
So i wonder, seppyk, can you please just add a small option to allow notes showed for the PHPBB export? Thats pretty much all we need.
Whould be even nice to have loot shorted by player, so everyone can see right away what items someone got.
Thanks :)
1. Loot notes are shown in the loot management screen and possibly in the tool tips as well if I recall correctly. I agree it would be nice to include this information on the main display though.
2. Notes are already included in the phpBB export strings per loot.
3. There is an open ticket for loot sorting, but I do not have a timetable as to when I will get to this change.
i wrote these to comments part on main addon page, i will copy paste here because i am not sure if it was seen.
"i have several stuff in mind, however i dont know how much they are implementable. Let me begin.
1) It would be better if we could see the long term activity of a player, when we click on his/her name in the list(At the moment, it shows how long that person was in this current raid which i personally dont find very useful but it is not so bad either). Instead of showing data like "Name, Guild, Level, Gender, Race" which has no use for tracking the activity, you can add a string like RRRMRRRWRM. This string is for last 10 raids (you can do even more raids in this format), R= Joined to Raid, M= Missed Raid, W=Was in waitlist. you can also add other stuff for replaced or whatever. But this can help a guild leader to see how active that person is with one click on the name of the person. I admit this string is a simple idea, if you have better idea which shows activity better and simple, you can implement that as well.
2) It would be very good to have synchronization between the class leaders/officers/gm who are all using this addon. So that if any of these people gets "wl add" whisper for being added to wait list, it will update waiting list on all officers team's addons.
3) Binding names of the alts with a main character would also be very useful. because some people would like to join waiting list with their alt chars. "
There is a ticket open for historical statistics, but I don't have time to work on this for the short term. This could be expanded to parse and calculate statistics for any number of things, but needs proper planning and resources.
Defining alts would be nice in the addon itself, but there are many different alt tracking options outside of the game (CTRT Import Plugin does this) to manage this as well. There is a ticket open for this issue though.
I don't know if this has been posted before, sorry if it has.
So me and my friends are going to be starting a new guild pretty soon, and we will be using Loot Council. We want to be able to see what people have looted and what their raid attendance is.
Is there anyway using Headcount that I can export to our forums, and it will show us a persons overall raid attendance throughout all of our raids? Thanks for the help.
seppyk just an FYI, there is another projected also named "HeadCount" on curse, it is a "Fan Update" somehow and it was automagically selected for download though the curse client. You might want to consider contacting the author, if not available then have the admins deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for the heads-up. I tried contacting the author of the Fan Update awhile back, but received no response. I also tried reporting the issue on Curse but no one responded. I'll try contacting the author one more time and if I don't hear back from him within a week or two, I'll contact the admins again.
Web applications like EQdkp, EQdkp Plus, DKPBoard, and a number of others present raid data statistics in a number of ways. I know there are some current users of HeadCount who parse their own statistics in Excel or their own custom applications. However, currently, HeadCount does not process its own internal statistics about tracked event data other with some exceptions (time totals and some others).
It would be nice though if there would be an (maybe optional) extension someday that does the statistics in-game. I would like to see who attends which raids how often / who got which loot --
without having to setup an external web-server + raid php scripts.
Hey m8 great addon. Just wanted to ask ingame the addon shows when u have joined and when u have ended and how much time u have been on raid but when i export it only shows the how much time u have been on the raid:
example
Raid: 04:13:57, Standby: 00:00:00, Offline: 00:00:00
i want to see joined / left / time on raid
also i know there are more options for export but can u make as simple as the addon it shows mean when u click on the raid name u see all there attendace on the lower window just select all and copy, same for the loot, press the show loot then select all and copy it.
It would be nice though if there would be an (maybe optional) extension someday that does the statistics in-game. I would like to see who attends which raids how often / who got which loot --
without having to setup an external web-server + raid php scripts.
That's a lot of overhead that is best used outside the game, even if it's like a spreadsheet on google docs.
I don't know if this has been posted before, sorry if it has.
So me and my friends are going to be starting a new guild pretty soon, and we will be using Loot Council. We want to be able to see what people have looted and what their raid attendance is.
Is there anyway using Headcount that I can export to our forums, and it will show us a persons overall raid attendance throughout all of our raids? Thanks for the help.
I don't think anyone replied to this yet nsknike. I find the best use for headcount is specifically for collecting and exporting data to a website. Our guild uses an EQDKP-plus CMS for our web presence (see here). It is very simple to update with headcount and headcount offers us all the tools we need as a loot counciled guild. None of that annoying DKP tracking crap for us.
So to answer your question, headcount can export in the following formats:
CSV
DKPBoard
EQdkp
phpBB
phpBB itemstats
text
XML
Headcount will not provide you attendence and loot statistics. You'll either have to look for a much more complicated mod (morg2?) or look to a web solution like we use.
So me and my friends are going to be starting a new guild pretty soon, and we will be using Loot Council. We want to be able to see what people have looted and what their raid attendance is.
Is there anyway using Headcount that I can export to our forums, and it will show us a persons overall raid attendance throughout all of our raids? Thanks for the help.
I'm one of the dkpboard.com developers and daily Wow raider, (I'm not impartial) but i think that one of the best solutions to track your guild stats is Headcount+dkpboard , headcount is (by far) the best solution to get information about "What happends during the raid" and dkpboard is the "tool" you need to store this information.
This is my guild page DKPBoard - Y los cuarenta ladrones check it, and if you want to take a look inside get an accont, it's free.
My dkp tool turns headcount XML directly into static HTML that looks like this : http://www.deniedguild.org/dkp/index.html (although the attendance tracking is currently broken).
Since it's static HTML you require no php, SQL or web skills beyond access to some cheap hosting from you ISP and ftp access. It uses weekly balanced zerosum (no inflation, rewards progression nights like farm nights), upgrade pricing and a number of methods of keeping the numbers working long term without problems like permanent wealth gaps (Cap & Floor or Decay basically). End of raid to published DKP results typically takes a couple of minutes.
I keep thinking about maybe making it more wide available and might be interested in hearing from a one or two guilds to do some sort of beta test. A bit more info at http://www.mathematicallysafe.com/zerosum/
When people leave the raid from group 6-8 (wait list groups) and then whisper me "wl add", Headcount often replies to them that they are already on the waiting list.
I've tried making them wait 10 seconds, which is how often Headcount updates, but Headcount will still report them as already on the wait list.
Is there any way to add "Bank" to a list of attendees, so it would could receive part of the DKP in a zero-sum system?
If not, perhaps that could be an added function in the future?
This seems like something that should be possible with EQdkp configuration. I remember the zero-sum checkbox in EQdkp, but never used it myself. Could this be handled with their configuration (dummy Bank character)?
When people leave the raid from group 6-8 (wait list groups) and then whisper me "wl add", Headcount often replies to them that they are already on the waiting list.
I've tried making them wait 10 seconds, which is how often Headcount updates, but Headcount will still report them as already on the wait list.
For a previous post: I would actually really like to calculate and display statistics in the mod itself, but this isn't going to happen for awhile due to lack of time and the massive change that would be required in changing the UI - which is the work I hate most when developing a WoW addon :).
Regarding, the wait list, the reason those users are receiving the message is because they are already on the wait list. Users can get on the wait list by one of two methods:
* Automatically: Player is in the raid in a wait list party group.
* Manually: Player whispered the addon owner, 'wl add', to join the wait list.
Users can be taken off the wait list by one of two methods:
* Automatically: Player is in the raid and gets moved to a raid list party group (assuming automatic removal configuration option is enabled).
* Manually: Player whispered the addon owner, 'wl remove', to leave the wait list.
If a player is on the wait list, they will remain on the wait list even if they leave the actual raid.
M8 good addon but can u add Merge option for raids so we can merge 2 raids. Also when i export it shows the total time that ppl have been on raid but the start and leave its shows 00.00. tnx
was wondering if we could get a more streamlined / simplified view for raid loot, IE a one line entry per item, instead of a multi line entry... or even a resizeable window ?
Is any way to change the wisper message for the wait list.. i`m trying to find a command but nothing yet.. if anyone know`s it yet would be nice to share it.
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* Added boss kill group attendance configuration.
* Added boss kill snapshot attendee removal.
* Added optional note to to wait list add whisper command.
* Added wait list contact note whisper command.
* Added wait list information to XML export format.
* Added wait list whisper notification configuration option.
* Added refresh button for export screen.
* Added returns and feeds for all export string lines.
1. Users can define which players are automatically included for attendance in a boss kill.
2. Wait list functionality was added for users to add contact notes.
There were be fewer releases for awhile due to real-life commitments. I will update sooner if any major bugs are found or if new instances are added.
If a developer is interested in pushing more active feature content, please feel free to message me if you are interested in joining development.
I would like to add synchronization. Probably loot synchronization would be the most sensible thing to do first due to the range limitations. However, I just don't have the same amount of time to work on the addon as I used, so this isn't a priority at this time.
1. Loot notes are shown in the loot management screen and possibly in the tool tips as well if I recall correctly. I agree it would be nice to include this information on the main display though.
2. Notes are already included in the phpBB export strings per loot.
3. There is an open ticket for loot sorting, but I do not have a timetable as to when I will get to this change.
There is a ticket open for historical statistics, but I don't have time to work on this for the short term. This could be expanded to parse and calculate statistics for any number of things, but needs proper planning and resources.
Defining alts would be nice in the addon itself, but there are many different alt tracking options outside of the game (CTRT Import Plugin does this) to manage this as well. There is a ticket open for this issue though.
So me and my friends are going to be starting a new guild pretty soon, and we will be using Loot Council. We want to be able to see what people have looted and what their raid attendance is.
Is there anyway using Headcount that I can export to our forums, and it will show us a persons overall raid attendance throughout all of our raids? Thanks for the help.
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Curse PremiumWeb applications like EQdkp, EQdkp Plus, DKPBoard, and a number of others present raid data statistics in a number of ways. I know there are some current users of HeadCount who parse their own statistics in Excel or their own custom applications. However, currently, HeadCount does not process its own internal statistics about tracked event data other with some exceptions (time totals and some others).
without having to setup an external web-server + raid php scripts.
example
Raid: 04:13:57, Standby: 00:00:00, Offline: 00:00:00
i want to see joined / left / time on raid
also i know there are more options for export but can u make as simple as the addon it shows mean when u click on the raid name u see all there attendace on the lower window just select all and copy, same for the loot, press the show loot then select all and copy it.
+ im looking for the same future as essmene
tnx
That's a lot of overhead that is best used outside the game, even if it's like a spreadsheet on google docs.
If not, perhaps that could be an added function in the future?
I don't think anyone replied to this yet nsknike. I find the best use for headcount is specifically for collecting and exporting data to a website. Our guild uses an EQDKP-plus CMS for our web presence (see here). It is very simple to update with headcount and headcount offers us all the tools we need as a loot counciled guild. None of that annoying DKP tracking crap for us.
So to answer your question, headcount can export in the following formats:
- CSV
- DKPBoard
- EQdkp
- phpBB
- phpBB itemstats
- text
- XML
Headcount will not provide you attendence and loot statistics. You'll either have to look for a much more complicated mod (morg2?) or look to a web solution like we use.I'm one of the dkpboard.com developers and daily Wow raider, (I'm not impartial) but i think that one of the best solutions to track your guild stats is Headcount+dkpboard , headcount is (by far) the best solution to get information about "What happends during the raid" and dkpboard is the "tool" you need to store this information.
This is my guild page DKPBoard - Y los cuarenta ladrones check it, and if you want to take a look inside get an accont, it's free.
Sorry about the "spam" :p
Since it's static HTML you require no php, SQL or web skills beyond access to some cheap hosting from you ISP and ftp access. It uses weekly balanced zerosum (no inflation, rewards progression nights like farm nights), upgrade pricing and a number of methods of keeping the numbers working long term without problems like permanent wealth gaps (Cap & Floor or Decay basically). End of raid to published DKP results typically takes a couple of minutes.
I keep thinking about maybe making it more wide available and might be interested in hearing from a one or two guilds to do some sort of beta test. A bit more info at
http://www.mathematicallysafe.com/zerosum/
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Curse PremiumI've tried making them wait 10 seconds, which is how often Headcount updates, but Headcount will still report them as already on the wait list.
This seems like something that should be possible with EQdkp configuration. I remember the zero-sum checkbox in EQdkp, but never used it myself. Could this be handled with their configuration (dummy Bank character)?
For a previous post: I would actually really like to calculate and display statistics in the mod itself, but this isn't going to happen for awhile due to lack of time and the massive change that would be required in changing the UI - which is the work I hate most when developing a WoW addon :).
Regarding, the wait list, the reason those users are receiving the message is because they are already on the wait list. Users can get on the wait list by one of two methods:
* Automatically: Player is in the raid in a wait list party group.
* Manually: Player whispered the addon owner, 'wl add', to join the wait list.
Users can be taken off the wait list by one of two methods:
* Automatically: Player is in the raid and gets moved to a raid list party group (assuming automatic removal configuration option is enabled).
* Manually: Player whispered the addon owner, 'wl remove', to leave the wait list.
If a player is on the wait list, they will remain on the wait list even if they leave the actual raid.
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