Requesting an option to automatically acknowledge all popup boxes, effectively hiding them.
I'm surprised there isn't such an otpion already. When running passively NRT as a backup attendance taker (without announcements) it's pretty annyoing to click away all the dialogs on every boss kill.
Or is there a reason why a popup box is necessary? (Need the hardware event?)
You could just turn off the "On Boss Kill" otion, then you won't get asked for attendance. If you are backup there isn't any need for you to take attendance is there, since people aren't sending you tells anyway.
You could just turn off the "On Boss Kill" otion, then you won't get asked for attendance. If you are backup there isn't any need for you to take attendance is there, since people aren't sending you tells anyway.
Turning off that option (and the "on loot" one also) pretty much equals to turning off all attendance taking, does it not?
Of course I've asked our main dkp guy before posting the request here. He's even more annoyed by it than I am, so being the backup attendance taker isn't really relevant here. Also we don't use the announce/whisper functions for reserve tracking.
Anyways, I've talked with Rabbit and wrote a patch afterwards giving a new option to suppress the popup box and still take attendance on the defined circumstances. Just needs some more testing before I submit it.
Perhaps the most useful feature I'd really like to see is a cross raid-sync.
In particular it seems like at least once every couple weeks whichever officer is doing dkp in my guild will crash, and lose all their data for that raid. Ideally NRT could sync (perhaps only among trusted participants, say inferring trust as meaning anyone in the raid promoted) so that instead of having a single point of failure, the raid data would be distributed among all the officers (and thus should one crash, when they reconnect they'd get a fresh copy of the data sync'd back to them.)
People spelling their name wrong shouldn't be possible any more (since quite some time ago), since all names are checked against the guild member list and the white list that you configure.
Furthermore, you didn't really answer my question - why do you want to add/delete people later in a raid?
The reason I ask is that I want to design NRT so that it can do everything automatically so that you don't HAVE to manually add and delete people.
I would much rather do that than make add/delete functions available.
There are various reasons raid leaders would like to be able to manually edit attendance records after they have been automatically tracked.
Personally, I like the automatic tracking because it makes my job easier. And that's the goal in NRT. But I'd also like to manually edit the attendance for a few reasons.
Firstly, I have a couple members that like to joke around and add random alts to the list that I'd have to manually edit out on our eqDKP page. Sure, one could suggest that I exhibit more control over my members. But any raid leader knows it's nearly impossible to prevent your members from joking around 100% of the time.
Secondly, members sometimes have to go to the bathroom or take a phone call. And I think it's best they do this while they're on standby, rather than in the instance. But sometimes they'll come back just after the grace period. But, personally, for me, the grace period is rather flexible. As an example, the grace period to be added to RoS attendance would be something like 15 minutes, because there's a heap of trash before Mother. But the grace period for Illidan would only be something like a few minutes, because there is no trash at all. So it's a hassle for me to continuously edit the grace period for each boss. I'd rather just leave it at something like three minutes and manually edit people in if they come back a few minutes after.
Finally, sometimes, I've seen members add their name to the list. But when it comes time to call on them to help us out, they actually aren't available. At this point, I want to remove them from attendance (for all the previous bosses they were on standby for). But I can't currently do that in-game. So, again, I have to keep a note on paper. But it'd be much easier if I could just do it on-the-spot in the game with NRT.
So while you want to avoid anything that's not automatic, you have to consider that some guilds have wild cards that can't really be automatically considered without writing code for each individual guild. And this isn't really feasible, meaning an ability to manually make changes would actually be extremely helpful.
While people are on the topic of waitlist, I'm somewhat used to a different method of tracking people outside the instance. Currently we use a custom built mod made by one of the members of my guild, but he stopped playing some months ago so he's no longer "updating" it.
Here's basically what it does. When I turn it on, it puts up a little window up on the screen. Assuming I'm an assistant or leader of the raid group, people are able to whisper me "queue" or "q" to be put in the "waitlist" so to speak. As soon as they whisper me that word, their name shows up under that window and next to their name it shows their zone location. If that person logs off then their name gets grayed out. If that person logs on an alt then their alt's name is shown where their location normally is. If they join the raid, the mod removes their name from the list.
Additionally, when officers say the word "printq" in officer chat, the mod will output a list of everyone in the queue at that moment. Or if someone whispers "printq" to me it will whisper back a list of people in the queue.
The main things that I like from this mod is how it only requires people to "check in" once (usually I'd open up Qing for the raid 15 or 30 minutes before the raid is scheduled to start) instead of after every boss fight. If it turns out they aren't available when we need them then I go back and remove them from the eqdkp page.
Basically the point of this post is a request for something similar to be added to NRT. In addition to a by-the-boss waitlist, have an option to just use a global waitlist, which can be viewed by other officers somehow.
Oh, and if you do like this and decide to implement it...I do have some other "feature suggestions" for it ;) (I just can't add them to the mod I use right now since I don't know a thing about programming :( ). One example being the ability to sync the queue between other officers/raid leaders who have NRT in case the main guy "running" it gets disconnected or crashes or just has to leave the raid for some reason.
NRT is nice, the problem tho is that none of the output format apart from example.xml works, if you do CTRA XML i only get one loot from 10 listed, the example xml output list them all but i cant figure out how to import them in eqdkp.
any idea ?
update screenshot included, as you can see the CTRA XML output only list last loot and not the others: http://sunofwisdom.net/nrtbug.jpg
ps: i'm no programmer but i looked at the code and i deduced this (which might be wrong), when a loot is recorded "lootedfrom" is assigned to the BOSS name, thing is you filter attendance set by ZONE so if the only records showing up is the bossname it gets filtered out.
so for now replace lootedfrom=unitname(targetid) with lootedfrom=getrealzonetext() i guess.
you'll always need the zone name to sort loot by attendance.name, that's what is missing here.
i just changed the output formatter to whatever suited the eqdkp importer i had :P, ah well there is so many CTRT out there you don't know which one correspond to which one.
Very cool addon. Thanks for creating it. I wanna ask sth. A FPS display just appeared in my screen after I installed NRT. Is there anything related to this in NRT ? Maybe hes enabling sth else ?
Just found this addon and it is awesome. I have a small feature request though.
Our guild uses the Suicide Kings loot system and I need to know if the player need or greed on the item. I was thinking would it be possible of having an SK option that when enabled popped up a message box with 3 buttons ( Need/Greed/Disenchant ) when NRT logs who received an item then marks in the log the users choice.
In advance, thank you for working on this mod and bringing it onto WAU.
I've been looking for a replacement for the bloated CTRT for a long time and it looks so close to being that. There are a couple of things that aren't quite working well enough for me to finally swap over yet, though. I'm wondering if there's a load of settings I can change to fix it or if I need to wait for further revisions.
First, a repeat request for loot notes to be set per item, so I can record different DKP prices per looter for the same item, and for a way to mark items as disenchanted or banked. It doesnt need to be anything too fancy - just to be able to set the looter as 'disenchanted' or something similar. If I have to do it manually mid-raid that's fine, but it'd be better still if it were on the 'loot note' box that pops up.
Second, the way that raids and loot are recorded confuses me :( I understand that the mod basically checks who's in the raid and records them when I 'take attendance' and theres options for wait lists and whatnot. All I really want is one raid with all the members and the trash loot, and one raid per boss. There's an option to ask if I want to take attendance when a boss dies, and I can do that. I don't really understand how the loot is assigned to a particular 'attendance' set, though. Is it related to how close in time that something is looted to someone after a boss 'attendance' is taken? If I set the attendance to be done automatically, I seem to get a raid event stored for every piece of loot. Am I missing something that makes this all simpler?
First of all extremly nice addon for all DKP Officer's out there!
I just have a couple of things I would love to get.
1) Maybe it is possible to add localisations since i'm german for example and not all of my guildmembers love to get spammed with english texts they don't understand. And with the Implementation of the localisations an option in wich language you want to output the strings since I play for myself with an english client but would like to post in german. I hope you understand what I mean.
2) Implementation of a Waiting list where you can register yourself from and be tracked with the time you were added, how long you where afk/offline (at the moment and overall) and the actual state afk/offline/dnd. In Addition maybe something where you can set aliases for some Mains since we mostly log onto alts and play them while waiting for an invite or setting out for someone.
sorry for my bad english
greetings Takorou
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You could just turn off the "On Boss Kill" otion, then you won't get asked for attendance. If you are backup there isn't any need for you to take attendance is there, since people aren't sending you tells anyway.
Turning off that option (and the "on loot" one also) pretty much equals to turning off all attendance taking, does it not?
Of course I've asked our main dkp guy before posting the request here. He's even more annoyed by it than I am, so being the backup attendance taker isn't really relevant here. Also we don't use the announce/whisper functions for reserve tracking.
Anyways, I've talked with Rabbit and wrote a patch afterwards giving a new option to suppress the popup box and still take attendance on the defined circumstances. Just needs some more testing before I submit it.
In particular it seems like at least once every couple weeks whichever officer is doing dkp in my guild will crash, and lose all their data for that raid. Ideally NRT could sync (perhaps only among trusted participants, say inferring trust as meaning anyone in the raid promoted) so that instead of having a single point of failure, the raid data would be distributed among all the officers (and thus should one crash, when they reconnect they'd get a fresh copy of the data sync'd back to them.)
If they are crashing that frequently tell them to do a /rl after each attendance while drinking up/waiting for the next trash wave.
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There are various reasons raid leaders would like to be able to manually edit attendance records after they have been automatically tracked.
Personally, I like the automatic tracking because it makes my job easier. And that's the goal in NRT. But I'd also like to manually edit the attendance for a few reasons.
Firstly, I have a couple members that like to joke around and add random alts to the list that I'd have to manually edit out on our eqDKP page. Sure, one could suggest that I exhibit more control over my members. But any raid leader knows it's nearly impossible to prevent your members from joking around 100% of the time.
Secondly, members sometimes have to go to the bathroom or take a phone call. And I think it's best they do this while they're on standby, rather than in the instance. But sometimes they'll come back just after the grace period. But, personally, for me, the grace period is rather flexible. As an example, the grace period to be added to RoS attendance would be something like 15 minutes, because there's a heap of trash before Mother. But the grace period for Illidan would only be something like a few minutes, because there is no trash at all. So it's a hassle for me to continuously edit the grace period for each boss. I'd rather just leave it at something like three minutes and manually edit people in if they come back a few minutes after.
Finally, sometimes, I've seen members add their name to the list. But when it comes time to call on them to help us out, they actually aren't available. At this point, I want to remove them from attendance (for all the previous bosses they were on standby for). But I can't currently do that in-game. So, again, I have to keep a note on paper. But it'd be much easier if I could just do it on-the-spot in the game with NRT.
So while you want to avoid anything that's not automatic, you have to consider that some guilds have wild cards that can't really be automatically considered without writing code for each individual guild. And this isn't really feasible, meaning an ability to manually make changes would actually be extremely helpful.
Here's basically what it does. When I turn it on, it puts up a little window up on the screen. Assuming I'm an assistant or leader of the raid group, people are able to whisper me "queue" or "q" to be put in the "waitlist" so to speak. As soon as they whisper me that word, their name shows up under that window and next to their name it shows their zone location. If that person logs off then their name gets grayed out. If that person logs on an alt then their alt's name is shown where their location normally is. If they join the raid, the mod removes their name from the list.
Additionally, when officers say the word "printq" in officer chat, the mod will output a list of everyone in the queue at that moment. Or if someone whispers "printq" to me it will whisper back a list of people in the queue.
The main things that I like from this mod is how it only requires people to "check in" once (usually I'd open up Qing for the raid 15 or 30 minutes before the raid is scheduled to start) instead of after every boss fight. If it turns out they aren't available when we need them then I go back and remove them from the eqdkp page.
Basically the point of this post is a request for something similar to be added to NRT. In addition to a by-the-boss waitlist, have an option to just use a global waitlist, which can be viewed by other officers somehow.
Oh, and if you do like this and decide to implement it...I do have some other "feature suggestions" for it ;) (I just can't add them to the mod I use right now since I don't know a thing about programming :( ). One example being the ability to sync the queue between other officers/raid leaders who have NRT in case the main guy "running" it gets disconnected or crashes or just has to leave the raid for some reason.
[2008/03/11 19:05:05-2250-x12]: NRT-364292\NRT.lua:1401: attempt to call method 'SetFocus' (a nil value)
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any idea ?
update screenshot included, as you can see the CTRA XML output only list last loot and not the others:
http://sunofwisdom.net/nrtbug.jpg
ps: i'm no programmer but i looked at the code and i deduced this (which might be wrong), when a loot is recorded "lootedfrom" is assigned to the BOSS name, thing is you filter attendance set by ZONE so if the only records showing up is the bossname it gets filtered out.
so for now replace lootedfrom=unitname(targetid) with lootedfrom=getrealzonetext() i guess.
you'll always need the zone name to sort loot by attendance.name, that's what is missing here.
Very cool addon. Thanks for creating it. I wanna ask sth. A FPS display just appeared in my screen after I installed NRT. Is there anything related to this in NRT ? Maybe hes enabling sth else ?
Thanks.
Our guild uses the Suicide Kings loot system and I need to know if the player need or greed on the item. I was thinking would it be possible of having an SK option that when enabled popped up a message box with 3 buttons ( Need/Greed/Disenchant ) when NRT logs who received an item then marks in the log the users choice.
Thank you for considering this.
Kind regards,
I've been looking for a replacement for the bloated CTRT for a long time and it looks so close to being that. There are a couple of things that aren't quite working well enough for me to finally swap over yet, though. I'm wondering if there's a load of settings I can change to fix it or if I need to wait for further revisions.
First, a repeat request for loot notes to be set per item, so I can record different DKP prices per looter for the same item, and for a way to mark items as disenchanted or banked. It doesnt need to be anything too fancy - just to be able to set the looter as 'disenchanted' or something similar. If I have to do it manually mid-raid that's fine, but it'd be better still if it were on the 'loot note' box that pops up.
Second, the way that raids and loot are recorded confuses me :( I understand that the mod basically checks who's in the raid and records them when I 'take attendance' and theres options for wait lists and whatnot. All I really want is one raid with all the members and the trash loot, and one raid per boss. There's an option to ask if I want to take attendance when a boss dies, and I can do that. I don't really understand how the loot is assigned to a particular 'attendance' set, though. Is it related to how close in time that something is looted to someone after a boss 'attendance' is taken? If I set the attendance to be done automatically, I seem to get a raid event stored for every piece of loot. Am I missing something that makes this all simpler?
its not Note, not DKP, not dkp, not Dkp, not note... wtf is it ? :)
I just have a couple of things I would love to get.
1) Maybe it is possible to add localisations since i'm german for example and not all of my guildmembers love to get spammed with english texts they don't understand. And with the Implementation of the localisations an option in wich language you want to output the strings since I play for myself with an english client but would like to post in german. I hope you understand what I mean.
2) Implementation of a Waiting list where you can register yourself from and be tracked with the time you were added, how long you where afk/offline (at the moment and overall) and the actual state afk/offline/dnd. In Addition maybe something where you can set aliases for some Mains since we mostly log onto alts and play them while waiting for an invite or setting out for someone.
sorry for my bad english
greetings Takorou