Ok I tested the waitlist function last night, and aside from a few bugs it was awesome.
1. Need to prevent people being added to the list twice.
2. When I use the "Add Player" submenu to add someone, and it isn't during checkin time, they dont get added to the list.
3. Would be good to have some kind of keyword for people to checkin and out of the waitlist (from alts even, using their main's name).
4. Should remove someone from the WL if someone else invites them to the raid.
5. Option to remove someone from the WL but NOT invite them (Shift-Click perhaps?).
6. Some way to report the current WL to ochat/guildchat/tell.
Also, I got disconnected after winterchill last night (disconnect to login screen, not full crash), and I didn't lose any NRT data, but I did lose my WWS log. So I am not sure exactly what level of crash is needed to lose NRT data, but it has happened to me.
As for trash drops, last night I tried doing silent attendance checks after each boss (I can't do a checkin for each trash drop, they would kill me), and it KINDA worked. I had to manually reenter the WL for each one, and sometimes the trash drops would go to the wrong attendance set (a cloak that dropped before Anetheron was in the Mount Hyjal attendance taken after Anetheron, along with a chest-piece that dropped before Kaz'rogal. I don't think I will try that method again, it is easier to just put the trash drop in manually and use the attendance from the boss and let someone complain in the forums if they joined the WL after the boss but before the trash drop. But if you could figure out a way to do an attendance check that includes the current WL silently, and makes an imaginary boss to attach the trash drop to, that would make me actually happy to see more trash drops ><.
1. Need to prevent people being added to the list twice.
Fixed.
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2. When I use the "Add Player" submenu to add someone, and it isn't during checkin time, they dont get added to the list.
The "Add Player" menu item is for adding people to the LAST ATTENDANCE SET, it's in the tooltip description of the menu item, please read the options more carefully.
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3. Would be good to have some kind of keyword for people to checkin and out of the waitlist (from alts even, using their main's name).
Maybe at a later point, remind me in a few weeks if you still feel like you need this.
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4. Should remove someone from the WL if someone else invites them to the raid.
Fixed.
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5. Option to remove someone from the WL but NOT invite them (Shift-Click perhaps?).
Shift-Click to remove added.
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6. Some way to report the current WL to ochat/guildchat/tell.
The "Add Player" menu item is for adding people to the LAST ATTENDANCE SET, it's in the tooltip description of the menu item, please read the options more carefully.
I guess then I am looking for a way to manually add a name to the wait list.
Just want to say great work on this addon and it's really shaping into a great replacement for the ancient CTRT. Couple of ideas that may make life easier:
1) A way to link an item from the NRT interface to the chat frame (maybe you can already do this, but I can't find it).
2) A way for a "DKP Officer" or some such thing to be able to record data while outside the instance. I am the GL and I normally do the DKP for our raids, and there are cases where my spot inside would be better suited for someone who still needs a drop or whatever, but I have to be inside taking up a spot to do this. Since drops already report to the guild chat, and you can specify a custom channel as well, maybe the mod could watch the custom channel for loot announcements and add them to NRT via the announcements in that channel. I'm not sure if that's possible, but it would be nice to have.
3) A blacklist option that you could add alts to and have them ignored by NRT. I know a lot of guilds use the waitlist idea but our guild generally only has 30 or so people in the raid so when raiders are not in an active group they will log off of their main, leaving them in the raid, then log on their alt and bring them into the raid just so they can see what's going on while they are playing on the alt. We've tried just not allowing alts in the raid, but our raiders really like to be able to see bossmod raid warnings and raid chat without having to sit outside and do nothing on their mains.
Also, I got disconnected after winterchill last night (disconnect to login screen, not full crash), and I didn't lose any NRT data, but I did lose my WWS log. So I am not sure exactly what level of crash is needed to lose NRT data, but it has happened to me.
It's been kinda hit or miss for me when I get disconnected to lose data or settings for different mods. I've just gotten in the habit of doing a quick /rl whenever I make a mod change or after looting from a boss kill. Reloading the UI will save the data.
I know this was suggested over on the nihilum forums, but I thought about it some more and came up with an easy way (although Im not sure how easy it will be to implement).
It would be awesome if you could re-assign loot to a different attendance. So for example trash mobs drops whatever and you assign it to the first daily attendance, or the previous boss kill, or whatever.
The easiest way I see to do it would be to be able to ALT-click the item and get a pop-up box with a list of all attendances taken so far and you just click which one it should belong to. Since some people seem to keep their entire raid history in NRT, maybe just the previous three attendances.
As an alternative, if an item is looted from a mob that does not have an attendance associated with it, it is automatically assigned to the last attendance taken. -- maybe this could be an option that can be toggled on/off
I thought that when you get disconnected, the saved variables are stored?
When you get disconnected they do, but if the game carsh you lose everything since your last proper shutdown.
Noticed a few rare times when the whole lua file for a few addons got corrupted upon crashing, but those are very few. Most of the time you just lose the changes.
Im hoping you are asking this to be an option, because if you get lucky on trash drops you will be doing attendance 10-15times per night
I guess that would be true if you got that many before the first boss. However I meant more along the lines of an attendance check at the first loot drop then attach all trash loot to that attendance check up until the first boss kill. Sorry that wasn't clear.
Author: rabbit
Date: Sat Feb 9 11:33:15 2008
New Revision: 60693
Log:
NRT:
* Added blacklist option, people added will never be allowed on attendance sets.
* Added options to disallow guild members of certain ranks to be added to attendance sets.
* Added option to always take attendance when a non-ignored non-special item is looted.
* Stored names are no longer case-insensitive but must follow the naming rules for WoW characters (first letter capitalized, rest lower).
Would it be possible to add a select all text button to the output box? I'm using the eqdkp output and it takes me a while to shift + down-button through all the text.
You are making the life easier for those of us who take raid attendances, thanks a lot, now i can almost kill my CTRT modded instalation
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Would it be possible to add a select all text button to the output box? I'm using the eqdkp output and it takes me a while to shift + down-button through all the text.
Since you can now add notes to attendances, can we get that put into the CTRT output. For example:
<note><![CDATA[zone - boss]]></note>
would become
<note><![CDATA[zone - boss - NRT note]]></note>
thx!
edit: hehe.. I just looked into the addon and saw:
-- Add in attendance.note here somewhere?
text = text .. "<note><![CDATA[" .. attendance.zone .. " - " .. attendance.name .. "]]></note>"
I change it to include the attendance.note as I described above and tested it on our DKP site and having the three different things in there worked perfectly, so you may want to do it permanently o)
I just saw the "attach trash drops to lass boss" option.
and I just want to say, awesome! thanks alot, I'll test it out tomorrow night in hyjal.
I'm wondering what it will do on a boss like the illidari council where each mob has a different name but only 1 is recorded as being a boss kill. From the looks of it it will attach each loot to the primary boss that was killed - in which case I think NRT now does everything I ever need it to do.
I change it to include the attendance.note as I described above and tested it on our DKP site and having the three different things in there worked perfectly, so you may want to do it permanently o)
Done!
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1. Need to prevent people being added to the list twice.
2. When I use the "Add Player" submenu to add someone, and it isn't during checkin time, they dont get added to the list.
3. Would be good to have some kind of keyword for people to checkin and out of the waitlist (from alts even, using their main's name).
4. Should remove someone from the WL if someone else invites them to the raid.
5. Option to remove someone from the WL but NOT invite them (Shift-Click perhaps?).
6. Some way to report the current WL to ochat/guildchat/tell.
Also, I got disconnected after winterchill last night (disconnect to login screen, not full crash), and I didn't lose any NRT data, but I did lose my WWS log. So I am not sure exactly what level of crash is needed to lose NRT data, but it has happened to me.
As for trash drops, last night I tried doing silent attendance checks after each boss (I can't do a checkin for each trash drop, they would kill me), and it KINDA worked. I had to manually reenter the WL for each one, and sometimes the trash drops would go to the wrong attendance set (a cloak that dropped before Anetheron was in the Mount Hyjal attendance taken after Anetheron, along with a chest-piece that dropped before Kaz'rogal. I don't think I will try that method again, it is easier to just put the trash drop in manually and use the attendance from the boss and let someone complain in the forums if they joined the WL after the boss but before the trash drop. But if you could figure out a way to do an attendance check that includes the current WL silently, and makes an imaginary boss to attach the trash drop to, that would make me actually happy to see more trash drops ><.
Fixed.
The "Add Player" menu item is for adding people to the LAST ATTENDANCE SET, it's in the tooltip description of the menu item, please read the options more carefully.
Maybe at a later point, remind me in a few weeks if you still feel like you need this.
Fixed.
Shift-Click to remove added.
Remind me again later.
I guess then I am looking for a way to manually add a name to the wait list.
1) A way to link an item from the NRT interface to the chat frame (maybe you can already do this, but I can't find it).
2) A way for a "DKP Officer" or some such thing to be able to record data while outside the instance. I am the GL and I normally do the DKP for our raids, and there are cases where my spot inside would be better suited for someone who still needs a drop or whatever, but I have to be inside taking up a spot to do this. Since drops already report to the guild chat, and you can specify a custom channel as well, maybe the mod could watch the custom channel for loot announcements and add them to NRT via the announcements in that channel. I'm not sure if that's possible, but it would be nice to have.
3) A blacklist option that you could add alts to and have them ignored by NRT. I know a lot of guilds use the waitlist idea but our guild generally only has 30 or so people in the raid so when raiders are not in an active group they will log off of their main, leaving them in the raid, then log on their alt and bring them into the raid just so they can see what's going on while they are playing on the alt. We've tried just not allowing alts in the raid, but our raiders really like to be able to see bossmod raid warnings and raid chat without having to sit outside and do nothing on their mains.
It's been kinda hit or miss for me when I get disconnected to lose data or settings for different mods. I've just gotten in the habit of doing a quick /rl whenever I make a mod change or after looting from a boss kill. Reloading the UI will save the data.
It would be awesome if you could re-assign loot to a different attendance. So for example trash mobs drops whatever and you assign it to the first daily attendance, or the previous boss kill, or whatever.
The easiest way I see to do it would be to be able to ALT-click the item and get a pop-up box with a list of all attendances taken so far and you just click which one it should belong to. Since some people seem to keep their entire raid history in NRT, maybe just the previous three attendances.
As an alternative, if an item is looted from a mob that does not have an attendance associated with it, it is automatically assigned to the last attendance taken. -- maybe this could be an option that can be toggled on/off
Thanks o)
Im hoping you are asking this to be an option, because if you get lucky on trash drops you will be doing attendance 10-15times per night
When you get disconnected they do, but if the game carsh you lose everything since your last proper shutdown.
Noticed a few rare times when the whole lua file for a few addons got corrupted upon crashing, but those are very few. Most of the time you just lose the changes.
I guess that would be true if you got that many before the first boss. However I meant more along the lines of an attendance check at the first loot drop then attach all trash loot to that attendance check up until the first boss kill. Sorry that wasn't clear.
Thanks :)
Shift+End works for me.
Having an issue with attendance only adding waitlist members and not attendees in the raid.
For example:-
Illidan - Attendees = 5 (should be 30)
Damn, my bad! Fixed now.
<note><![CDATA[zone - boss]]></note>
would become
<note><![CDATA[zone - boss - NRT note]]></note>
thx!
edit: hehe.. I just looked into the addon and saw:
-- Add in attendance.note here somewhere?
text = text .. "<note><![CDATA[" .. attendance.zone .. " - " .. attendance.name .. "]]></note>"
I change it to include the attendance.note as I described above and tested it on our DKP site and having the three different things in there worked perfectly, so you may want to do it permanently o)
and I just want to say, awesome! thanks alot, I'll test it out tomorrow night in hyjal.
I'm wondering what it will do on a boss like the illidari council where each mob has a different name but only 1 is recorded as being a boss kill. From the looks of it it will attach each loot to the primary boss that was killed - in which case I think NRT now does everything I ever need it to do.
Awesome work!
Done!