Our guild rewards DKP based on boss kills and Full/Half runs.
Would it be possible to have NRT work out which members stayed in the group for the full run ie killed all bosses recorded and place them in a "raid" called Full Run and have all other members recorded in Half Run?
NRT doesn't seem to be detecting double-clicks when used with FuBar2Broker, so the combination prevents attendance from being taken.
Edit: It seems that neither Fubar2Broker nor any LDB display addons implement OnDoubleClick() handling/passthrough. Ugh. I think I'm just going to hack F2B to translate middle clicks to double clicks.
I'm the current unofficial maintainer of F2B because andreasg is too busy and keeps telling me to do whatever I want to it >.>
I hacked it to pass middle-clicks as double-clicks. I can't make double-clicks work directly just by changing F2B because LDB display addons (ButtonBin, Fortress, etc.) don't seem to pass OnDoubleClick events to LDB plugins that they're displaying. Unfortunately this is a kludge because:
- the user won't know that middle clicks translate to double clicks unless they read the changelog.
- only double-click functionality will be accessible in fubar addons that implement features based on both middle- and double-clicking. I (and others on IRC at the time) couldn't think of any useful middle-click features on any FuBar addons, though, so it seemed a decent tradeoff in the case of NRT.
- users without a middle mouse button are still unable to simulate double-clicks. They should be punished anyways though.
My old guild used NRT and it was great. However, my new guild has decided to use Time Based DKP rewards in WOLK and not Boss Kills.
We will assign DKP/Track Attendance as follows:
1 Point = On Time
1 Point = Each Hour Of Raid
Is there a way to add time based attendance tracking to NRT?
Basically add a timer function that would snapshot raid attendance and spam guild chat for bench player based on the timer.
Example: Ignore Boss Kills, but every 60 minutes, capture attendance and simultainously spam guild chat for bench players. I realize this is a major change and might require a new add on completely. NRT Time Based? LOL...
I am not a developer at all or I would take a shot at this. Any chance of this??
Or chance another developer is interested? There are many guilds out there who don't use Boss Kill DKP. I was hoping someone could make a sister add on to help Time Based Point guilds.
Three Other questions:
1. Is there a guide on how to upload to EQDKP?
2. Do other guilds have an issue with cheaters? Meaning one player thying to add another player to the attendance?
3. It looks like this add on captures players who are OFFLINE for attendance. Do I need to manually manage this or can it be set to ignore players who are OFFLINE?
I am aware that I can set NRT to only log grps 1-5 which should prevent offline players in grps 6-9 from getting captured. Just asking if there is setting to skip players who are offline.
Yes, you can add the NOTE column so when an items is looted you can enter the DKP Value.
Can Anyone answer the upload to EQDKP Question? Is there a guide on how to upload to EQDKP?
In CT_RaidTracker there is a string to upload. If it is the same in NRT how do I access the string that uploads the entire raid day?
Is NRT stand alone, or do I need another add on like CT_RaidTracker?
Seems someone needs to know this LOL... This is popular add on.
Is a Plug In Needed for the Default EQDKP install to make this work?
I am attempting to use the CT_RaidTracker XML output format.
(I also attempted the other 3 output formats with similar results)
When I copy the string from in game and attempt to parse on EQDKP I get this:
Parsed 1 lines, found 0 members
This is a new EQDKP Install By The way... Our Hosting Company set it up yesterday.
You need to install the CT_RaidTracker import plugin for EQDKP. NRT has a CT_RaidTracker XML output but doesn't really support it because EQDKP and the CT_RaidTracker import plugin for EQDKP are both total fucking shit. So if you have problems with it you're on your own.
You need to install the CT_RaidTracker import plugin for EQDKP. NRT has a CT_RaidTracker XML output but doesn't really support it because EQDKP and the CT_RaidTracker import plugin for EQDKP are both total fucking shit. So if you have problems with it you're on your own.
lol I like how it isn't officially supported because it sucks, even though it's the only way I've heard of to import the data into EQDKP.
I really need to find a more modern piece of DKP server-side software for WotLK that has good attendance tracking/viewing features. EQDKP is probably going to break due to the addition of Death Knights.
lEQDKP is probably going to break due to the addition of Death Knights.
Hunterz - It looks like the Website Plugin is already updated to handle DK.
Are you saying the Stable version of EQDKP 1.3.2 is not ready for WOLK?
It looks as if there is a beta out now... Have you guys ever upgraded EQDKP before? Is it a pain to upgrade versions?
This is getting off topic, but I had 2 EQDKP Questions...
1. I read about a plugin that shows the 30/60 day attendance as a column in the normal EQDKP Standings page. I am very interested in this as attendance is tied to rank for us. Anyone have experience with this?
2. Are there any other Website Plugins specifically related to EQDKP that are helpful?
Thanks Guys. I was supernoob when i first started this, but I think I am getting the hang of the infrastructure/deployment of this....
Hunterz - It looks like the Website Plugin is already updated to handle DK.
Are you saying the Stable version of EQDKP 1.3.2 is not ready for WOLK?
It looks as if there is a beta out now... Have you guys ever upgraded EQDKP before? Is it a pain to upgrade versions?
I inherited my guild's current EQDKP setup. I hacked in an attendance plugin and leaderboard hack that I found on forums somewhere, and I'm concerned that any attempt to upgrade things may break them. The beta version isn't very recent and doesn't seem to add much from what I've read.
1. I read about a plugin that shows the 30/60 day attendance as a column in the normal EQDKP Standings page. I am very interested in this as attendance is tied to rank for us. Anyone have experience with this?
No, and I'd love to hear more about that, as my guild uses attendance as a factor in loot priority as well.
Personally I'd like to ditch EQDKP for something that is actively maintained, but nothing looks like it would serve us any better without lots of PHP/SQL hacking to customize it.
My Install is brand new so I am still feeling my way around the EQDKP options.
The CT_RaidTracker Web plugin allows me to do the upload from NRT but I still have 1-2 questions.
This might get a bit off topic... Read on if ya have time.
Our guild will use Hourly attendance during raids to assign DKP.
One point per hour. So, during a normal raid, we have 4 total attendances.
Boss Kills Are Ignored.
How can I group these hourly raid attendances into one single raid in EQDKP?
Basically, it would show 1 RAID (Used as a grouping header - no DKP Assigned) with 4 Different Attendance "Events" under the raid heading. (Each Attendance would count for 1 DKP Point)
Example:
RAID HEADING - Black Temple October 1st
** Log Parse from NRT ** 8 AM Attendance - On Time (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 9 AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 10AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 11AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
Part two of this question: How does grouping attendances under a single raid heading effect 30/60 Day Attendances?
A. Does it count each full raid (which contains 4 attendance events) as a single attendance?
Meaning players would get 100% attendance credit if they were part of only 1/4 of the Attendance Events?
B. Does each Attendance Event count in the 30 day % even if they are grouped under a single raid heading?
So, attending 2/4 attendances in a specific RAID would equal 50% attendance for the Raid day....
Configure NRT (Easy Options in game)
Set Output Type to CT_RaidTracker.
Clicking an specific attendance will popup a window with a String.
Copy that using CONTROL + C and Paste into your website.
(IMPORT CT_RaidTracker Link)
Parse the log, add DKP points etc...
Thanks! We're going to give EQDKP-Plus another go I think. It shows 30-day attendance on the main standings list, but doesn't let you sort by that column. I'll probably try to hack that in at some point.
Keep me in the loop via these forums if you get the hack working.
I am very interested in sorting by 30 Day attendance.
However, I think we installed EQDKP Stable 1.3.2 which is different than EQDKP Plus. (grrrr)
Either way, mine working fine now... And NRT seems great.
I won't really know until we start regular raids again...
Hunterz - You or someone else have an answer to this?
How can I group these hourly raid attendances into one single raid in EQDKP?
Basically, it would show 1 RAID (Used as a grouping header - no DKP Assigned) with 4 Different Attendance "Events" under the raid heading. (Each Attendance would count for 1 DKP Point)
Example:
RAID HEADING - Black Temple October 1st
** Log Parse from NRT ** 8 AM Attendance - On Time (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 9 AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 10AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 11AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
Part two of this question: How does grouping attendances under a single raid heading effect 30/60 Day Attendances?
A. Does it count each full raid (which contains 4 attendance events) as a single attendance?
Meaning players would get 100% attendance credit if they were part of only 1/4 of the Attendance Events?
B. Does each Attendance Event count in the 30 day % even if they are grouped under a single raid heading?
So, attending 2/4 attendances in a specific RAID would equal 50% attendance for the Raid day....
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Our guild rewards DKP based on boss kills and Full/Half runs.
Would it be possible to have NRT work out which members stayed in the group for the full run ie killed all bosses recorded and place them in a "raid" called Full Run and have all other members recorded in Half Run?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: It seems that neither Fubar2Broker nor any LDB display addons implement OnDoubleClick() handling/passthrough. Ugh. I think I'm just going to hack F2B to translate middle clicks to double clicks.
I hacked it to pass middle-clicks as double-clicks. I can't make double-clicks work directly just by changing F2B because LDB display addons (ButtonBin, Fortress, etc.) don't seem to pass OnDoubleClick events to LDB plugins that they're displaying. Unfortunately this is a kludge because:
- the user won't know that middle clicks translate to double clicks unless they read the changelog.
- only double-click functionality will be accessible in fubar addons that implement features based on both middle- and double-clicking. I (and others on IRC at the time) couldn't think of any useful middle-click features on any FuBar addons, though, so it seemed a decent tradeoff in the case of NRT.
- users without a middle mouse button are still unable to simulate double-clicks. They should be punished anyways though.
We will assign DKP/Track Attendance as follows:
1 Point = On Time
1 Point = Each Hour Of Raid
Is there a way to add time based attendance tracking to NRT?
Basically add a timer function that would snapshot raid attendance and spam guild chat for bench player based on the timer.
Example: Ignore Boss Kills, but every 60 minutes, capture attendance and simultainously spam guild chat for bench players. I realize this is a major change and might require a new add on completely. NRT Time Based? LOL...
I am not a developer at all or I would take a shot at this. Any chance of this??
Or chance another developer is interested? There are many guilds out there who don't use Boss Kill DKP. I was hoping someone could make a sister add on to help Time Based Point guilds.
Three Other questions:
1. Is there a guide on how to upload to EQDKP?
2. Do other guilds have an issue with cheaters? Meaning one player thying to add another player to the attendance?
3. It looks like this add on captures players who are OFFLINE for attendance. Do I need to manually manage this or can it be set to ignore players who are OFFLINE?
I am aware that I can set NRT to only log grps 1-5 which should prevent offline players in grps 6-9 from getting captured. Just asking if there is setting to skip players who are offline.
Is it possible to put the DKP Value of an Item after loot in NRT?
Because now i must write on an paper how much the item costs :(
Can Anyone answer the upload to EQDKP Question? Is there a guide on how to upload to EQDKP?
In CT_RaidTracker there is a string to upload. If it is the same in NRT how do I access the string that uploads the entire raid day?
Is NRT stand alone, or do I need another add on like CT_RaidTracker?
Seems someone needs to know this LOL... This is popular add on.
I am attempting to use the CT_RaidTracker XML output format.
(I also attempted the other 3 output formats with similar results)
When I copy the string from in game and attempt to parse on EQDKP I get this:
Parsed 1 lines, found 0 members
This is a new EQDKP Install By The way... Our Hosting Company set it up yesterday.
Can you verify if a plugin is needed for the WEBSITE?
If So, Is this the one?
http://forums.eqdkp.com/index.php?showtopic=11356
See attached String... Maybe something else is wrong...
CAN ANYONE DELETE #185... now that I know more this is a useless post...
lol I like how it isn't officially supported because it sucks, even though it's the only way I've heard of to import the data into EQDKP.
I really need to find a more modern piece of DKP server-side software for WotLK that has good attendance tracking/viewing features. EQDKP is probably going to break due to the addition of Death Knights.
CT_RaidTracker 1.16.1 Includes: Luna, wotlk, & death knight support
Download Link: http://forums.eqdkp.com/index.php?showtopic=11356
Hopefully this fixes the parsing issue and allows me to upload the NRT String (CT_RaidTracker XML Format).
Hunterz - It looks like the Website Plugin is already updated to handle DK.
Are you saying the Stable version of EQDKP 1.3.2 is not ready for WOLK?
It looks as if there is a beta out now... Have you guys ever upgraded EQDKP before? Is it a pain to upgrade versions?
This is getting off topic, but I had 2 EQDKP Questions...
1. I read about a plugin that shows the 30/60 day attendance as a column in the normal EQDKP Standings page. I am very interested in this as attendance is tied to rank for us. Anyone have experience with this?
2. Are there any other Website Plugins specifically related to EQDKP that are helpful?
Thanks Guys. I was supernoob when i first started this, but I think I am getting the hang of the infrastructure/deployment of this....
I inherited my guild's current EQDKP setup. I hacked in an attendance plugin and leaderboard hack that I found on forums somewhere, and I'm concerned that any attempt to upgrade things may break them. The beta version isn't very recent and doesn't seem to add much from what I've read.
No, and I'd love to hear more about that, as my guild uses attendance as a factor in loot priority as well.
Personally I'd like to ditch EQDKP for something that is actively maintained, but nothing looks like it would serve us any better without lots of PHP/SQL hacking to customize it.
Template for EQDKP with the 30/60 attendance column
Look in the Table for the EQdkp downloads.
Direct Link to the WoWMaevahEmpire EQDKP Template
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My Install is brand new so I am still feeling my way around the EQDKP options.
The CT_RaidTracker Web plugin allows me to do the upload from NRT but I still have 1-2 questions.
This might get a bit off topic... Read on if ya have time.
Our guild will use Hourly attendance during raids to assign DKP.
One point per hour. So, during a normal raid, we have 4 total attendances.
Boss Kills Are Ignored.
How can I group these hourly raid attendances into one single raid in EQDKP?
Basically, it would show 1 RAID (Used as a grouping header - no DKP Assigned) with 4 Different Attendance "Events" under the raid heading. (Each Attendance would count for 1 DKP Point)
Example:
RAID HEADING - Black Temple October 1st
** Log Parse from NRT ** 8 AM Attendance - On Time (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 9 AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 10AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 11AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
Part two of this question: How does grouping attendances under a single raid heading effect 30/60 Day Attendances?
A. Does it count each full raid (which contains 4 attendance events) as a single attendance?
Meaning players would get 100% attendance credit if they were part of only 1/4 of the Attendance Events?
B. Does each Attendance Event count in the 30 day % even if they are grouped under a single raid heading?
So, attending 2/4 attendances in a specific RAID would equal 50% attendance for the Raid day....
Does that make sense?
Step #1: Download/Install NRT Add On Warcraft
Step #2: Install EQdkp To Your Website
Step #3: Install the CT_Raid Tracker Website Plugin
Step #4: Optional
Install EQDKP Theme Template That Includes 30/60 Day Attendance on Standings Page
There is also a phpBB 3.0.2 Forums Template To Match
We use WoWMaevahEmpire For Forums and EQDKP.
Now, Once this is all done....
Configure NRT (Easy Options in game)
Set Output Type to CT_RaidTracker.
Clicking an specific attendance will popup a window with a String.
Copy that using CONTROL + C and Paste into your website.
(IMPORT CT_RaidTracker Link)
Parse the log, add DKP points etc...
DONE
I am very interested in sorting by 30 Day attendance.
However, I think we installed EQDKP Stable 1.3.2 which is different than EQDKP Plus. (grrrr)
Either way, mine working fine now... And NRT seems great.
I won't really know until we start regular raids again...
How can I group these hourly raid attendances into one single raid in EQDKP?
Basically, it would show 1 RAID (Used as a grouping header - no DKP Assigned) with 4 Different Attendance "Events" under the raid heading. (Each Attendance would count for 1 DKP Point)
Example:
RAID HEADING - Black Temple October 1st
** Log Parse from NRT ** 8 AM Attendance - On Time (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 9 AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 10AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
** Log Parse from NRT ** 11AM Attendance - (1 DKP)
Part two of this question:
How does grouping attendances under a single raid heading effect 30/60 Day Attendances?
A. Does it count each full raid (which contains 4 attendance events) as a single attendance?
Meaning players would get 100% attendance credit if they were part of only 1/4 of the Attendance Events?
B. Does each Attendance Event count in the 30 day % even if they are grouped under a single raid heading?
So, attending 2/4 attendances in a specific RAID would equal 50% attendance for the Raid day....