There are few videos available that may help you get familiar with PallyPower:
How-to video, created during TBC, does not have all the latest features explained, but gives the basics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVX7zOUK6s4
I <3 Pallypower. It got some weird things, like that I can't find out how to make it grow downwards, not upwards - but the addon is the best for assigning Blessings I've found yet :D
So good to see you post it up here, Az. You saved and improved the best pally mod out there so long ago. I sincerely hope that we don't lose you on this addon.
I recently noticed PallyPowerInfo on SVN, whats that all about?
That's an independent addon for people without PP installed. The addon captures PP messages and creates a list of paladins responsible for each blessing. Basically a replacement for "/pp report" command.
I noticed something about /pp report.
It only says who does which blessings, but not on which classes. This can if assigning them centrally lead to a lot of confusion. Since it is not inherently clear whether your Raidleader intended you to give the Rogues Salvation or Might if you do those two (kinda).
Is there a way to make the reporting by-class, maybe?
I don't have a high level pally, really just getting started. Only have blessing of might atm.
Questions:
1. Do I need to be in a party for this to work, or can I use it just for me (solo)
2. Related to #1, I don't see any "window" or "bar" Just have the red dot to open config
3. Can't seem to get any blessing (ie might) to show to assign to my pally.
If the answer to #1 is yes, then 2 & 3 may be irrelevant :D
As far as I know, you need to have the greater blessings for the addon to even work. But you can use it solo, I believe you have to set that option, since it is off by default.
I gave it a try to add normal blessings for specific people to the addon. I still haven't tested it in raids much yet but people are still free to check it out and give any comments. It works by left clicking the class icons and then selecting the blessings.
I gave it a try to add normal blessings for specific people to the addon. I still haven't tested it in raids much yet but people are still free to check it out and give any comments. It works by left clicking the class icons and then selecting the blessings.
That works, but you can assign only one alternative.
Think about a raid with 1 cat druids, 1 bear druid and 1 caster druid. They may want very different blessings. Same with shamans.
Another thing, you may want to revert left clicking functionality back to original and add Shift- or any other combination for normal blessings.
Not sure what you did with PallyPower:ButtonPreClick().
First, this function does not work in combat. Any click will only recast a previously cast spell on the previous unit.
Second, out of combat on left click it is supposed to find any nearby person and rebuff a greater blessing on the entire class. That will override any normal spells of course.
On the right click it is supposed to fight any nearby person and cast a normal blessing, maybe repeated until everyone is buffed.
And the main problem of your implementation is that every paladin would have to remember every off-spec character and their roles in different encounters in order to cast a proper normal blessing.
My idea to fix off-spec blessings was to provide an interface for the raid leader to be able to reassign specific players to different classes. For example: bear druids assigned to warriors and given the same blessings, cat druids assigned to rogues, dps warriors assigned to rogues, etc.
That would require some very minor modifications for exising PP code, but may require a new reassignment interface.
That works, but you can assign only one alternative.
Think about a raid with 1 cat druids, 1 bear druid and 1 caster druid. They may want very different blessings. Same with shamans.
It should be possible for each paladin to add one alternetive to each person. The small icon of BoL you see on the picture is just an indicator of that at least one person has it. So your examble should be possible. Did you test it? :)
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Another thing, you may want to revert left clicking functionality back to original and add Shift- or any other combination for normal blessings.
Not sure what you did with PallyPower:ButtonPreClick().
First, this function does not work in combat. Any click will only recast a previously cast spell on the previous unit.
Second, out of combat on left click it is supposed to find any nearby person and rebuff a greater blessing on the entire class. That will override any normal spells of course.
On the right click it is supposed to fight any nearby person and cast a normal blessing, maybe repeated until everyone is buffed.
Left clicking the class buttons is the same as always, only right clicking will buff special blessings for people who have those assignned. So what you describe should still be the case.
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And the main problem of your implementation is that every paladin would have to remember every off-spec character and their roles in different encounters in order to cast a proper normal blessing.
Well to take your examble, blessings for cat, bear and caster druids doesn't change much from fight to fight i think, so it's only a one time assignment in most cases. But to make this easier i have though of giving players control over their own blessings via PallyPowerInfo so they simply pick a different blessing if they want.
Quote from Aznamir »
My idea to fix off-spec blessings was to provide an interface for the raid leader to be able to reassign specific players to different classes. For example: bear druids assigned to warriors and given the same blessings, cat druids assigned to rogues, dps warriors assigned to rogues, etc.
That would require some very minor modifications for exising PP code, but may require a new reassignment interface.
I thought of that too, but that doesn't allow for combinations that no class want. As an examble, for some boss fights warlocks and mages are tanking and thus they might want BoL instead of BoS. This isn't possible with your idea.
So did you test all you are saying? To me it seems like you misunderstood what i simply wrote a bit :)
Edit - Here is another pic to see how you assign the blessings:
I think i understod some of what you meant now, so i moved the menu for normal blessings in the config window from clicking the class icon to ctrl + click on the buff buttons so that the leader can assign normal blessings to everyone too.
I'm currently thinking of a way to use your idea but have it assign normal blessings from that. So that you could assign a warrior who is dps to rogues and then the addon assigns the normal blessings to him that rogues have.
I'm currently thinking of a way to use your idea but have it assign normal blessings from that. So that you could assign a warrior who is dps to rogues and then the addon assigns the normal blessings to him that rogues have.
You'll want to make it so that you can't cast a greater blessing at all on a person you assigned an individual one to, otherwise you could end up giving the MT salv mid fight which while hilarious, could end badly.
You'll want to make it so that you can't cast a greater blessing at all on a person you assigned an individual one to, otherwise you could end up giving the MT salv mid fight which while hilarious, could end badly.
You are thinking about what happens when you left click a player button who got a different normal blessing assigned? What do you thing should happen then? Normal blessing? Greater blessing assigned to the class?
Because if you mean that the greater blessing assigned to the class should never be cast on people with different blessings assigned that is isn't possible because you can't control who gets greater blessings.
Edit - I now changed right click on player button to always cast the greater blessigned to the class instead of the greater version of the special one.
Also added blue color to show when only special blessings are missing
The add-on has been in development for quite a while and I'd like to invite other developers to participate.
PallyPower is hosted by CurseForge http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/pally-power/
The addon-description lists all PallyPower controls.
There are few videos available that may help you get familiar with PallyPower:
How-to video, created during TBC, does not have all the latest features explained, but gives the basics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVX7zOUK6s4
Here are two more created during WoTLK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru2gSvt6ZPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pneMrmAFYEk
Also there PallyPower 101 guide here:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/cgrava/other/pallypower/pp101.html
Enjoy the PallyPower :)
I recently noticed PallyPowerInfo on SVN, whats that all about?
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That's an independent addon for people without PP installed. The addon captures PP messages and creates a list of paladins responsible for each blessing. Basically a replacement for "/pp report" command.
It only says who does which blessings, but not on which classes. This can if assigning them centrally lead to a lot of confusion. Since it is not inherently clear whether your Raidleader intended you to give the Rogues Salvation or Might if you do those two (kinda).
Is there a way to make the reporting by-class, maybe?
I don't have a high level pally, really just getting started. Only have blessing of might atm.
Questions:
1. Do I need to be in a party for this to work, or can I use it just for me (solo)
2. Related to #1, I don't see any "window" or "bar" Just have the red dot to open config
3. Can't seem to get any blessing (ie might) to show to assign to my pally.
If the answer to #1 is yes, then 2 & 3 may be irrelevant :D
Thanks in advance.
Turn off greater blessings in the options menu. Don't forget to turn them on later :)
Thanks! That will help :)
*edit That, of course, worked. Thanks again. Looks awesome!
It can be found here:
http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/PallyPower/poull/
Here is a small SS of it:
That works, but you can assign only one alternative.
Think about a raid with 1 cat druids, 1 bear druid and 1 caster druid. They may want very different blessings. Same with shamans.
Another thing, you may want to revert left clicking functionality back to original and add Shift- or any other combination for normal blessings.
Not sure what you did with PallyPower:ButtonPreClick().
First, this function does not work in combat. Any click will only recast a previously cast spell on the previous unit.
Second, out of combat on left click it is supposed to find any nearby person and rebuff a greater blessing on the entire class. That will override any normal spells of course.
On the right click it is supposed to fight any nearby person and cast a normal blessing, maybe repeated until everyone is buffed.
And the main problem of your implementation is that every paladin would have to remember every off-spec character and their roles in different encounters in order to cast a proper normal blessing.
My idea to fix off-spec blessings was to provide an interface for the raid leader to be able to reassign specific players to different classes. For example: bear druids assigned to warriors and given the same blessings, cat druids assigned to rogues, dps warriors assigned to rogues, etc.
That would require some very minor modifications for exising PP code, but may require a new reassignment interface.
It should be possible for each paladin to add one alternetive to each person. The small icon of BoL you see on the picture is just an indicator of that at least one person has it. So your examble should be possible. Did you test it? :)
Left clicking the class buttons is the same as always, only right clicking will buff special blessings for people who have those assignned. So what you describe should still be the case.
Well to take your examble, blessings for cat, bear and caster druids doesn't change much from fight to fight i think, so it's only a one time assignment in most cases. But to make this easier i have though of giving players control over their own blessings via PallyPowerInfo so they simply pick a different blessing if they want.
I thought of that too, but that doesn't allow for combinations that no class want. As an examble, for some boss fights warlocks and mages are tanking and thus they might want BoL instead of BoS. This isn't possible with your idea.
So did you test all you are saying? To me it seems like you misunderstood what i simply wrote a bit :)
Edit - Here is another pic to see how you assign the blessings:
Not yet, just did a diff and checked the changes.
I'm currently thinking of a way to use your idea but have it assign normal blessings from that. So that you could assign a warrior who is dps to rogues and then the addon assigns the normal blessings to him that rogues have.
Exactly.
You'll want to make it so that you can't cast a greater blessing at all on a person you assigned an individual one to, otherwise you could end up giving the MT salv mid fight which while hilarious, could end badly.
Because if you mean that the greater blessing assigned to the class should never be cast on people with different blessings assigned that is isn't possible because you can't control who gets greater blessings.
Edit - I now changed right click on player button to always cast the greater blessigned to the class instead of the greater version of the special one.
Also added blue color to show when only special blessings are missing
Not understanding this image, why or how you can get 2 different blessings for one class, how does one show this, and how does it work?