Authors CurseForge

yes, and I figured it might be the culprit. I guess I need to figure out what settings in there I need to change.

I expanded the ClassDefaults for Druids like this:

GroupDebuffs(48564, 48566, 46857) -- Mangle - Bear, Mangle - Cat, Trauma
GroupDebuffs(  770, 16857, 56631, 16231) -- Faerie Fire, Faerie Fire (Feral), Sting, Curse of Recklessness
GroupDebuffs(48560, 47437, 55487, 50511) -- Demoralizing Roar, Demoralizing Shout, Demoralizing Screesh, Curse of Weakness
GroupDebuffs(48468, 3043) -- Insect Swarm, Scorpid Sting
GroupDebuffs(6795, 355, 62124, 56222) -- Growl, Taunt, Hand of Reckoning, Dark Command
    
SelfTalentProc(48461, 48517) -- Wrath, Eclipse
SelfTalentProc(48465, 48518) -- Starfire, Eclipse

Was going to try if this works in tomorrow's raid when there will be a trauma'ing warrior.
Question: Does it make sense to add other classes' abilities to the druid defaults? Or is there a good reason not to do it?

Quote from billxan12345

yes, and I figured it might be the culprit. I guess I need to figure out what settings in there I need to change.

I solved it... thanks for pointing me in the Button Facade direction

Well, Taunt and Growl - that is vrey debatable. But Mangle - Cat and Trauma absolutely makes sense IMO. A cat does not want to Mangle when she can Shred instead.

But I guess that means that it works with other classes' abilities. :)

imagine this, drag your weapon and 2 trinkets into a bar, and assign the weapon enchant to the weapon and the trinket proc to the trinkets !

that would be awesome, and even better if it would work with macro button like #showtooltip 13 !

does works when you put an item in a button but doesn't work with macro yet and doesn't seem to works with food ("Well Fed" buff)

the usual trinket macro is :
#showtooltip 13 (or 14 for trinket2)
/use 13

if inline aura could works with this it would be perfect.

btw i noticed that the inline timer aura gots 2 more seconds than the interface default timer.



there is 13 seconds left in IA but only 11s left on the buff display (the same things happens with debuff).

indeed, precise countdown is synch with the buff timer, guess there is much error in the rounding :>

I have played a bit with the settings I posted recently. Just haven't found the time to spec to Moonkin to test the Eclipse procs.

Growl/Taunt - definately useful as a tank, because of DR on taunts. You do not want to taunt something by accident that another tank has taunted already, or the mob may end up un-tauntable for 10sec.

Mangle / Trauma is a blessing. Simple as that. Cats do not want to mangle without need. It would be kinda cool if it were possible not to show the duration on the Mangle (Bear) button (unnecessary info, you press it whenever it is off cooldown, anyway), but I guess that's not possible.

Insect swarm / scorpid sting - unnecessary, since you wnt to keep up the swarm now. It has become a very nice DoT.
The many debuffing roars - nice, because at least for bears, it does not generate much threat. So you usually just want to roar when it is necessary. Some other tank keeping up the debuff saves you a CD you can use for something that gives you more aggro.

I would like to see this in the defaults, but I can understand if you prefer to keep stuff from other classes out.

Well, yes, I wouldn't mind. Might be a good idea to leave out debuffs that you usually cast because of the damaging or threat-increasing side effects. Moonkins won't stop casting insect swar just because some other druid already applied the debuff. Bears won't stop mangling just because some warrior applied trauma. (you can tell that I am mostly playing druids >_< ) But generally, adding most or all debuffs from that list might not be a bad thing. Can't see how that would be a bad thing.

inline aura should be about self buff/debuff, not what others do.

Why? What other debuffs are on a target effects my choice of when or how to apply debuffs myself. How is it bad to know that a non-stacking debuff is already on the target?

I am not asking about a new feature or to add any bloat. Inline aura can already do this. I am just asking to add it to the defaults. I am not even asking for this because it is convenient for me. I already changed the defaults for the classes I play. I just thought that it might increase the usability of IA for others that do not want to do the same work again.

IA apply to buttons, buttons are yours, you can't put other people skills on your bar.

for other people debuffs applied on target there is a simple ui, the target bar, just use some filter on it for the debuff you want to see that's it, there's plenty mod that does that.

keeping the list short and simple is nice, you just add what you want, if it's bloated with tons of debuff/buff then you'd have to check them all and start deleting instead of adding.

just my opinion.