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okay, so i've uploaded lilsparkys workshop to the wowace svn and i'll be doing my main development here.
briefly, lilsparky's workshop adds a few items to each line of your trade skill window: the level of the item created by the skill, the value of the item, and the cost of the reagents. it needs auctioneer or aucadvanced to work. enchantrix will allow it to consider disenchant values as well.
plugs into the standard blizzard ui frames, the excellent "advanced trade skill window" mod, and the even excellenter skillet trade skill mod.
okay, i've stuck in support for kc_items but i'm not very confident that it's all working correctly.
for example, a lot of items don't seem to have vendor prices (altho, even mousing over these items doesn't show vendor prices so i'm not sure what the story is). and of course, my auction database is miniscule so it's tough to know how well that's doing.
any kc users out there, gimme some feedback and lemme know if it's even close to correct!
okay, i've stuck in support for kc_items but i'm not very confident that it's all working correctly.
for example, a lot of items don't seem to have vendor prices (altho, even mousing over these items doesn't show vendor prices so i'm not sure what the story is). and of course, my auction database is miniscule so it's tough to know how well that's doing.
any kc users out there, gimme some feedback and lemme know if it's even close to correct!
Don't worry about KC_Items vendor price support. Auctioneer doesn't have native vendor price support; instead it uses the addon (included in its package) Informant.
Instead, support the increasingly universal GetSellValue API. That way, you have support for at least six different vendor price addons (ItemPriceTooltip, SellFish, Informant, etc.) with a single function, instead of implementing support for each mod individually.
In terms of KC_Items support for LilSparky's Workshop (LSW) display of market prices, it doesn't appear to work at all with the older KC_Items r45124 (using here because converting older databases to post-r45124 builds doesn't work too well). Nothing shows up in either the tooltip or Blizzard tradeskill window. Haven't yet tested on the latest KC_Items r46856; I may or may not soon ;).
Also, be nice if you put up a screenshot; its not entirely clear where the LSW data shows up. In the tradeskill window for each recipe (and if so, where)? In the recipe tooltip? Also would be a lot easier to see if other mods (such as TradeskillInfo) are interfering with it if you screenshot or describe exactly where the LSW data appears.
Don't worry about KC_Items vendor price support. Auctioneer doesn't have native vendor price support; instead it uses the addon (included in its package) Informant.
yeah, i actually use informant for my vendor pricing. technically speaking, i could check for the vendor price mods (sellvalue and informant) seperately, but since they're part of larger packages i sort of treat them as one.
Instead, support the increasingly universal GetSellValue API. That way, you have support for at least six different vendor price addons (ItemPriceTooltip, SellFish, Informant, etc.) with a single function, instead of implementing support for each mod individually.
i'm trying to not force people to d/l additional mods to make lsw work. now if that's a library of command, then that'd be great. either way, i'll look into it.
In terms of KC_Items support for LilSparky's Workshop (LSW) display of market prices, it doesn't appear to work at all with the older KC_Items r45124 (using here because converting older databases to post-r45124 builds doesn't work too well). Nothing shows up in either the tooltip or Blizzard tradeskill window. Haven't yet tested on the latest KC_Items r46856; I may or may not soon ;).
yeah, i found that kc_items seems to have been totally rewritten compared to the version that other systems use. i just went with the latest. i wasn't sure if it was me or kc_items, but lots if items seem to have missing data.
Also, be nice if you put up a screenshot; its not entirely clear where the LSW data shows up. In the tradeskill window for each recipe (and if so, where)? In the recipe tooltip? Also would be a lot easier to see if other mods (such as TradeskillInfo) are interfering with it if you screenshot or describe exactly where the LSW data appears.
there are screen shots on curse and wowinterface, but i'm not sure how to do that here. i suppose the wiki would be a place. oh.. haha. additional options allows attachments. awesome. i'll edit the first post.
yeah, i actually use informant for my vendor pricing. technically speaking, i could check for the vendor price mods (sellvalue and informant) seperately, but since they're part of larger packages i sort of treat them as one.
i'm trying to not force people to d/l additional mods to make lsw work. now if that's a library of command, then that'd be great. either way, i'll look into it.
You currently force people to use Informant to make LSW work (for vendor prices) ;). By supporting the GetSellPrice API, you can instead stop forcing people to use Informant for the information. Instead, with a single function, you can easily allow people that use Informant or ItemPriceTooltip or SellFish or any number of other vendor price addons to all work with LSW.
You currently force people to use Informant to make LSW work (for vendor prices) ;). By supporting the GetSellPrice API, you can instead stop forcing people to use Informant for the information. Instead, with a single function, you can easily allow people that use Informant or ItemPriceTooltip or SellFish or any number of other vendor price addons to all work with LSW.
actually, it uses kc_items or informant. the thing is, informant is part of the auctioneer package and the more important information is actually the auction values. the theory i'm working with here is that in order to use lsw, you need an auction scanner. both auction scanners i use have their own vendor selling systems in place, so i'm sort of assuming they'll be installed with the auction scanners.
the getsellvalue addon doesn't really do much for me because vendor pricing by itself is not enough so i need to check for auctioneer (which implies informant is loaded) or kc_items (which implies that sellvalues is loaded). unless you think that vendor-only information would be useful to people. i know when i first started playing, i tended to just vendor stuff i'd make.
Support for Auc-Advanced (Auctioneer Advanced)? Or just classic?
auc-advanced and auctioneer are both supported. in fact, if you have them both loaded, the auction valuation will consider both databases (weighted by number of items) when calculating the auction value.
I will test KC_Items with this later today and let you know the results.
awesome. let me know cuz i'm really not a kc_items user and the wowace version of kc_items (which is what i'm using) seems to be a rewrite and maybe incomplete compared to the old version. at least, that's what i'm gathering from a few responses i've gotten on the subject.
actually, it uses kc_items or informant. the thing is, informant is part of the auctioneer package and the more important information is actually the auction values. the theory i'm working with here is that in order to use lsw, you need an auction scanner. both auction scanners i use have their own vendor selling systems in place, so i'm sort of assuming they'll be installed with the auction scanners.
the getsellvalue addon doesn't really do much for me because vendor pricing by itself is not enough so i need to check for auctioneer (which implies informant is loaded) or kc_items (which implies that sellvalues is loaded). unless you think that vendor-only information would be useful to people. i know when i first started playing, i tended to just vendor stuff i'd make.
Actually what he is trying to get through to you is NOT EVERYONE that uses auctioneer uses informant. I am one of those. I have always used auctioneer but I dont use all the optional parts. I don't use informant or btmscanner or beancounter etc etc. I pick and choose what optionals I want on any mod. Personally I use sellfish and Tinytip for tooltips and I have multiple other mods obviously that change tooltips. SUpporting an API or Library is always better than just supporting one addon if you support the API I am sure this will entail more work for you but.... It will make it useful a broader audience.
Actually what he is trying to get through to you is NOT EVERYONE that uses auctioneer uses informant. I am one of those. I have always used auctioneer but I dont use all the optional parts. I don't use informant or btmscanner or beancounter etc etc. I pick and choose what optionals I want on any mod. Personally I use sellfish and Tinytip for tooltips and I have multiple other mods obviously that change tooltips. SUpporting an API or Library is always better than just supporting one addon if you support the API I am sure this will entail more work for you but.... It will make it useful a broader audience.
okay, i think i understand the getsellvalue api a little better now. i originally thought it was a wrapper-type library as opposed to a convention that conforming vendor addons were supporting.
the only issue is that i'm also using buy from vendor prices for cost analysis. i've gone back and forth on this one, so i could be persuaded to switch to sell to vendor prices (or provide a toggle). my thought is that if an item hasn't been seen at the ah very much (hardwired at 10 times currently), it's probably a vendor item -- like threads and vials. in those cases, it would seem inaccurate to say the cost of crafting would be based on how much money you could make selling those items. they aren't drops so the only people selling them would be people who've bought them.
auc-advanced and auctioneer are both supported. in fact, if you have them both loaded, the auction valuation will consider both databases (weighted by number of items) when calculating the auction value.
Downloaded! Nice to see such a useful yet simple mod. =)
I tried using the addon last night, but I did not see any pricing appear on my Skillet. I'm using KCI2 (latest svn). Not sure if I'm doing something wrong.
I tried finding the slash commands in Niagara, but I couldn't find any at all. Are there any configurations?
I tried using the addon last night, but I did not see any pricing appear on my Skillet. I'm using KCI2 (latest svn). Not sure if I'm doing something wrong.
I tried finding the slash commands in Niagara, but I couldn't find any at all. Are there any configurations?
Nope. The TOC file doesn't list any saved-variables, and the Lua file doesn't appear to register any slash-commands.
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briefly, lilsparky's workshop adds a few items to each line of your trade skill window: the level of the item created by the skill, the value of the item, and the cost of the reagents. it needs auctioneer or aucadvanced to work. enchantrix will allow it to consider disenchant values as well.
plugs into the standard blizzard ui frames, the excellent "advanced trade skill window" mod, and the even excellenter skillet trade skill mod.
wiki: www.wowace.com/wiki/LilSparkysWorkshop
screenshots:
Good work! :)
not at the moment, but it shouldn't be too hard to add support.
for example, a lot of items don't seem to have vendor prices (altho, even mousing over these items doesn't show vendor prices so i'm not sure what the story is). and of course, my auction database is miniscule so it's tough to know how well that's doing.
any kc users out there, gimme some feedback and lemme know if it's even close to correct!
still looking for feedback on how well the kc_items support is working.
Don't worry about KC_Items vendor price support. Auctioneer doesn't have native vendor price support; instead it uses the addon (included in its package) Informant.
Instead, support the increasingly universal GetSellValue API. That way, you have support for at least six different vendor price addons (ItemPriceTooltip, SellFish, Informant, etc.) with a single function, instead of implementing support for each mod individually.
In terms of KC_Items support for LilSparky's Workshop (LSW) display of market prices, it doesn't appear to work at all with the older KC_Items r45124 (using here because converting older databases to post-r45124 builds doesn't work too well). Nothing shows up in either the tooltip or Blizzard tradeskill window. Haven't yet tested on the latest KC_Items r46856; I may or may not soon ;).
Also, be nice if you put up a screenshot; its not entirely clear where the LSW data shows up. In the tradeskill window for each recipe (and if so, where)? In the recipe tooltip? Also would be a lot easier to see if other mods (such as TradeskillInfo) are interfering with it if you screenshot or describe exactly where the LSW data appears.
yeah, i actually use informant for my vendor pricing. technically speaking, i could check for the vendor price mods (sellvalue and informant) seperately, but since they're part of larger packages i sort of treat them as one.
i'm trying to not force people to d/l additional mods to make lsw work. now if that's a library of command, then that'd be great. either way, i'll look into it.
yeah, i found that kc_items seems to have been totally rewritten compared to the version that other systems use. i just went with the latest. i wasn't sure if it was me or kc_items, but lots if items seem to have missing data.
there are screen shots on curse and wowinterface, but i'm not sure how to do that here. i suppose the wiki would be a place. oh.. haha. additional options allows attachments. awesome. i'll edit the first post.
You currently force people to use Informant to make LSW work (for vendor prices) ;). By supporting the GetSellPrice API, you can instead stop forcing people to use Informant for the information. Instead, with a single function, you can easily allow people that use Informant or ItemPriceTooltip or SellFish or any number of other vendor price addons to all work with LSW.
actually, it uses kc_items or informant. the thing is, informant is part of the auctioneer package and the more important information is actually the auction values. the theory i'm working with here is that in order to use lsw, you need an auction scanner. both auction scanners i use have their own vendor selling systems in place, so i'm sort of assuming they'll be installed with the auction scanners.
the getsellvalue addon doesn't really do much for me because vendor pricing by itself is not enough so i need to check for auctioneer (which implies informant is loaded) or kc_items (which implies that sellvalues is loaded). unless you think that vendor-only information would be useful to people. i know when i first started playing, i tended to just vendor stuff i'd make.
auc-advanced and auctioneer are both supported. in fact, if you have them both loaded, the auction valuation will consider both databases (weighted by number of items) when calculating the auction value.
awesome. let me know cuz i'm really not a kc_items user and the wowace version of kc_items (which is what i'm using) seems to be a rewrite and maybe incomplete compared to the old version. at least, that's what i'm gathering from a few responses i've gotten on the subject.
Actually what he is trying to get through to you is NOT EVERYONE that uses auctioneer uses informant. I am one of those. I have always used auctioneer but I dont use all the optional parts. I don't use informant or btmscanner or beancounter etc etc. I pick and choose what optionals I want on any mod. Personally I use sellfish and Tinytip for tooltips and I have multiple other mods obviously that change tooltips. SUpporting an API or Library is always better than just supporting one addon if you support the API I am sure this will entail more work for you but.... It will make it useful a broader audience.
okay, i think i understand the getsellvalue api a little better now. i originally thought it was a wrapper-type library as opposed to a convention that conforming vendor addons were supporting.
the only issue is that i'm also using buy from vendor prices for cost analysis. i've gone back and forth on this one, so i could be persuaded to switch to sell to vendor prices (or provide a toggle). my thought is that if an item hasn't been seen at the ah very much (hardwired at 10 times currently), it's probably a vendor item -- like threads and vials. in those cases, it would seem inaccurate to say the cost of crafting would be based on how much money you could make selling those items. they aren't drops so the only people selling them would be people who've bought them.
Downloaded! Nice to see such a useful yet simple mod. =)
I tried using the addon last night, but I did not see any pricing appear on my Skillet. I'm using KCI2 (latest svn). Not sure if I'm doing something wrong.
I tried finding the slash commands in Niagara, but I couldn't find any at all. Are there any configurations?
Nope. The TOC file doesn't list any saved-variables, and the Lua file doesn't appear to register any slash-commands.