Is data pollable from BigWigs (like a triggered event) when a Bossfight starts?
If that is the case (and there's also one for when the fight ends, either the simple "Oh my, we're all dead!", or the "boss has been defeated" from BigWigs), then could one not "simply" (can you notice I'm not a programmer? :P ) generate a second table of data at that moment, record data in both tables, then later save the additional table with the Boss' name.
So that at the end of a raidnight, one would have a total view, and multiple single views, per Bossbattle. That's if that is technically possible. :)
Is data pollable from BigWigs (like a triggered event) when a Bossfight starts?
If that is the case (and there's also one for when the fight ends, either the simple "Oh my, we're all dead!", or the "boss has been defeated" from BigWigs), then could one not "simply" (can you notice I'm not a programmer? :P ) generate a second table of data at that moment, record data in both tables, then later save the additional table with the Boss' name.
So that at the end of a raidnight, one would have a total view, and multiple single views, per Bossbattle. That's if that is technically possible. :)
It's all perfectly possible, without even needing BigWigs. But the solution needs to be an elegant and efficient one. Data size is not much of a problem. Violation typically grows about 15kib during a 4 hour raid with multiple resets. So it's safe to assume total data collected is around 15kib. (this is with all modules running).
It's just fitting it all in the generic scheme of things in the best possible way. I could hack in the historical data in probably 15 mins or less, but that wouldn't make it a pretty solution.
Is data pollable from BigWigs (like a triggered event) when a Bossfight starts?
If that is the case (and there's also one for when the fight ends, either the simple "Oh my, we're all dead!", or the "boss has been defeated" from BigWigs), then could one not "simply" (can you notice I'm not a programmer? :P ) generate a second table of data at that moment, record data in both tables, then later save the additional table with the Boss' name.
So that at the end of a raidnight, one would have a total view, and multiple single views, per Bossbattle. That's if that is technically possible. :)
For what it's worth - Assessment already has a BigWigs module, and if enabled, it records the combat information of boss kills for later perusal. It also has historical data (default capped at last 3 fights, but configurable in the menus).
I suggest you reconsider using bigwigs for that in assessment roartindon. It's not needed. Babble-Boss and CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH and an intelligent engage thing are all you need.
It's all perfectly possible, without even needing BigWigs. But the solution needs to be an elegant and efficient one. Data size is not much of a problem. Violation typically grows about 15kib during a 4 hour raid with multiple resets. So it's safe to assume total data collected is around 15kib. (this is with all modules running).
It's just fitting it all in the generic scheme of things in the best possible way. I could hack in the historical data in probably 15 mins or less, but that wouldn't make it a pretty solution.
-Ammo
I know you're referring to "elegant" in terms of a coding solution, but from a user-interface perspective, I believe WWS (http://www.lossendil.com/wws/) does this really well. WWS supplies a drop-down list consisting of a "full report", "trash mobs", and a report for each boss try/kill. Here's a screenshot from one of my reports:
I suggest you reconsider using bigwigs for that in assessment roartindon. It's not needed. Babble-Boss and CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH and an intelligent engage thing are all you need.
-Ammo
Thanks - I'll redo the code when I have time to look at it.
awsome addon, good work guys. I personally do not care for all the extra info DM meters/Swstats give. If i wanted the most accurate fight data i would just use WWS anyway.
<BankZ> I tried to regiester with wowace to make a post for a violation request
<BankZ> but I couldnt get it to send me a email to verify my address
<BankZ> so, can I just give you my request :)
<vhaarr> yes
<BankZ> I would love it if it would filter out non-combat data
<BankZ> it would also be nice if it auto disabled if not in a group
<BankZ> but thats less important
<BankZ> outa combat healing data is kinda worthless
<BankZ> so I would love to filter it out like SWS
the tooltip when you first load and mouseover does not list any dependancy's but it does in fact require you to install ace2/parser-3.0/parserlib
edit : NM i guess its just the threat module that requires the parser, but the Ace2 library
otherwise it errors.. on the same token.. my other addons that embed the ace library' is there a way to drag that out into the main folder.. might save a little space.. my game drive is shrinking... but i do have about 6gigs of ut2k4/q3 maps :P
really nice work with violation and i prefer it myself over sws due to its "lightweightness"
however what im missing is the ability to report to a custom channel, cause i find myself more than often hanging with the healers in a healing channel and would be nice to be able to report healing in that specific channel.
- a feature to reset viol when a sws reset vote is passed
Why? One of the most important reasons I choose to use Violation over SWS is because I like to reset whenever I want to. Whether you reset or not has no effect on SWS users. If you want to reset when they do, reset it yourself. I don't want SWS users to reset my meters.
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If that is the case (and there's also one for when the fight ends, either the simple "Oh my, we're all dead!", or the "boss has been defeated" from BigWigs), then could one not "simply" (can you notice I'm not a programmer? :P ) generate a second table of data at that moment, record data in both tables, then later save the additional table with the Boss' name.
So that at the end of a raidnight, one would have a total view, and multiple single views, per Bossbattle. That's if that is technically possible. :)
It's all perfectly possible, without even needing BigWigs. But the solution needs to be an elegant and efficient one. Data size is not much of a problem. Violation typically grows about 15kib during a 4 hour raid with multiple resets. So it's safe to assume total data collected is around 15kib. (this is with all modules running).
It's just fitting it all in the generic scheme of things in the best possible way. I could hack in the historical data in probably 15 mins or less, but that wouldn't make it a pretty solution.
-Ammo
For what it's worth - Assessment already has a BigWigs module, and if enabled, it records the combat information of boss kills for later perusal. It also has historical data (default capped at last 3 fights, but configurable in the menus).
-Ammo
I know you're referring to "elegant" in terms of a coding solution, but from a user-interface perspective, I believe WWS (http://www.lossendil.com/wws/) does this really well. WWS supplies a drop-down list consisting of a "full report", "trash mobs", and a report for each boss try/kill. Here's a screenshot from one of my reports:
Thanks - I'll redo the code when I have time to look at it.
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Curse Premium<BankZ> but I couldnt get it to send me a email to verify my address
<BankZ> so, can I just give you my request :)
<vhaarr> yes
<BankZ> I would love it if it would filter out non-combat data
<BankZ> it would also be nice if it auto disabled if not in a group
<BankZ> but thats less important
<BankZ> outa combat healing data is kinda worthless
<BankZ> so I would love to filter it out like SWS
I still experienced that bug last night.
edit : NM i guess its just the threat module that requires the parser, but the Ace2 library
otherwise it errors.. on the same token.. my other addons that embed the ace library' is there a way to drag that out into the main folder.. might save a little space.. my game drive is shrinking... but i do have about 6gigs of ut2k4/q3 maps :P
Awesome addon by the way.
Ok I'll bite.
no.
Violation is not and will never be a 'ZOMG ACE2' frontend for SWS or DMM.
There will be niftier resetting options in the future including per boss fight resets. There is absolutly no need for listening to sws/dmm resets.
-Ammo
I been waiting for this. Thanks!
turn on your windows in the menu then clickt eh plugin.
a warning will be added what to do when that happens.
-Ammo
Aaah, right. Thanks. :)
Now it works.
- a feature to reset viol when a sws reset vote is passed
- the possibillity to only collect data when in combat
Why? One of the most important reasons I choose to use Violation over SWS is because I like to reset whenever I want to. Whether you reset or not has no effect on SWS users. If you want to reset when they do, reset it yourself. I don't want SWS users to reset my meters.