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I have to partly agree with Cladhaire - the downside of heal rank selectors is that if you rely on them, you probably won't be the worst healer in your raid, but probably not the best either. And while auto-rank selection (see my additional note below) is very helpful for quickly clearing MC for an over-geared raid group which is capable of clearing (most of) BWL, sooner or later you'll end up with major problems as you've never learned to manually choose ranks depending on the current situation - and you'll probably not be able to properly heal preemptively.
On the other side, for some situations such a feature can be pretty handy. I use auto-rank selection (sometimes even combined with auto choosing the target via Squishy) for battlegrounds, e.g. for AV front line battles.
Now to the note I mentioned above: while predicting the damage on a target for the next 1-3 seconds is merely impossible, there are 2 simple states that are helpful - which is partly why I added them as visual indicators to Squishy:
- is a unit currently being healed by someone else? If yes, choose a lower rank (personally, I subtract 350hp from the current damage)
- does a unit have aggro? If yes, choose a higher rank (here I'm adding 350*spell cast duration to the current damage to 'predict' the total damage the moment the spell lands)
Aka for my personal needs, I'd mainly want a function I can pass a unit, spellname and a over/underheal value in percent or absolute - that will then return the optimal rank. Again, I'm not the type of person who'd always rely on this logic, but it's helpful for lots of situations.
I do think this is nothing that should be a module of Clique but rather an embeddable library that can be added to Clique and other addons, but doesn't have to be distributed with it. Rather let users decide to add it, than let them decide to opt out.
I've also said this elsewhere. Auto rank selection is utterly worthless for healing MTs. Someone on the boards used the terms predictive and reactive healing to explain this. The rank auto-selected will never be correct since reactive healing is simply not quick enough when tanks are taking damage spikes of thousands of HP at a time. Predictive healing with specific heal ranks is the way to go for MT healing in 40man raids.
I agree that auto rank selection is very nice for 5-10 mans, but then again the current 5-10 man instances are so easy that any intelligent healer can do it in their sleep.
But fret not, even if Cladhaire doesn't write an auto rank selection plugin, other devs are doing it.
As others have said, Clique's interface is brilliant! ^_^
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It doesn't work with any addon that doesn't have a plugin for it. If you'd like me to support MarsRaid, please submit a feature request on my portal at http://cladhaire.wowinterface.com.
As for MG2, it should not change the target to the person you're healing unless they are outside of your raid or party and you're clicking on targettarget. Can you confirm you have nothing else that would operate on those frames, and you only have Clique bindings on those key-click combinations?
It doesn't work with any addon that doesn't have a plugin for it. If you'd like me to support MarsRaid, please submit a feature request on my portal at http://cladhaire.wowinterface.com.
As for MG2, it should not change the target to the person you're healing unless they are outside of your raid or party and you're clicking on targettarget. Can you confirm you have nothing else that would operate on those frames, and you only have Clique bindings on those key-click combinations?
Submitted a request for MarsRaid. Thanks!
I will test MG2 again after I get back from July 4th festivities.
Shouldn't be either, but if you run into it again let me know. Someone else reported an issue with WatchDog's ToT frame, but I was unable to reproduce it at all. I'm going to put some detailed debug messages in tonight, with a flag that you can switch to make the messages active.l
One can't assign anything to Right click. This is the same trouble Lozorath ran into (DUF, GB) with Group Buttons. The only way he fixed it was to remap the right click button to something else.
Features --
Auto Rank or Rank healing needs to be put in. I don't run a lot of raids, and mostly I'm helping friends out in Lower instances. Why should I cast Greater Heal Rank 4 on a Level 20 Warrior? Thats a huge Overheal and kaboom we are all dead.
Nurfed Alpha works fine, exept binding something to the MiddleButton, because Nurfed doesn't register the Click on it.
If you want to bind something to your middle mousebutton add "MiddleButtonUp" to RegisterForClicks in line 73 of Lib.lua
Tghis is not a 100% yet but I am almost positive there is a memory leak when opening and especially configuring the spells from the spell book. My memory usage spikes from 64 to 82MB after just 3 times using the spellbook configuration.
Memory usage goes back to normal after zoning however.
Tghis is not a 100% yet but I am almost positive there is a memory leak when opening and especially configuring the spells from the spell book. My memory usage spikes from 64 to 82MB after just 3 times using the spellbook configuration.
Memory usage goes back to normal after zoning however.
Some addons do that when the config widow is open. It's not a leak as Cladhaire said.
If you use a "all in one" type bag addon or auctioneer or Kc Items, watch the memory usage when you open your bags or AH window, it will start to go up then as well.
Yeah well when it jumps high like that and does not go down until a zone or ui reload I would call that a big memory consumption. Never noticed anything take that much up before. Not even CTRA or Ace Heal so it caused me to get mildly alarmed. When my system memory jumps from 45% utilization to 95% I get concerned as well. I would hate to see what happens on an older system.
I just check out to see if there was a problem that I might not have noticed.
At most I had an increasing rate spike for about 2 seconds after I clicked a spell to add to the Clique spell listing (tried this 5 times) of about 8Kib. Also witheh Clique config open I sat between 0.8 and 1.5KiB.
What other addons are you running along side Clique? What other mods do you have open?
Maybe Clique and another mod don't play nice together.
Just some ideas since I don't see the problem myself and I've configured Clique to 8 of my characters.
Clique itself rebuilds the entire action table every single time you save a spell or open the clique config window. This is necessary at this point to make sure the action table is always up-to-date. The action table causes a function to be GC'd for each action, and a new one to be rebuilt. If you are seeing CONSISTENT memory usage, than I can almost guarantee that its not Clique.. you could use a profiler to check it out.
Will it cause some memory usage, yep. It'll all be garbage collected on the next pass.
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On the other side, for some situations such a feature can be pretty handy. I use auto-rank selection (sometimes even combined with auto choosing the target via Squishy) for battlegrounds, e.g. for AV front line battles.
Now to the note I mentioned above: while predicting the damage on a target for the next 1-3 seconds is merely impossible, there are 2 simple states that are helpful - which is partly why I added them as visual indicators to Squishy:
- is a unit currently being healed by someone else? If yes, choose a lower rank (personally, I subtract 350hp from the current damage)
- does a unit have aggro? If yes, choose a higher rank (here I'm adding 350*spell cast duration to the current damage to 'predict' the total damage the moment the spell lands)
Aka for my personal needs, I'd mainly want a function I can pass a unit, spellname and a over/underheal value in percent or absolute - that will then return the optimal rank. Again, I'm not the type of person who'd always rely on this logic, but it's helpful for lots of situations.
I do think this is nothing that should be a module of Clique but rather an embeddable library that can be added to Clique and other addons, but doesn't have to be distributed with it. Rather let users decide to add it, than let them decide to opt out.
I agree that auto rank selection is very nice for 5-10 mans, but then again the current 5-10 man instances are so easy that any intelligent healer can do it in their sleep.
But fret not, even if Cladhaire doesn't write an auto rank selection plugin, other devs are doing it.
Clique does not work with MarsRaid, FYI.
http://curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1676-1-marsraid.html
As others have said, Clique's interface is brilliant! ^_^
It doesn't work with any addon that doesn't have a plugin for it. If you'd like me to support MarsRaid, please submit a feature request on my portal at http://cladhaire.wowinterface.com.
As for MG2, it should not change the target to the person you're healing unless they are outside of your raid or party and you're clicking on targettarget. Can you confirm you have nothing else that would operate on those frames, and you only have Clique bindings on those key-click combinations?
Submitted a request for MarsRaid. Thanks!
I will test MG2 again after I get back from July 4th festivities.
Did reloading fix it? Does it work today?
Sorry about that =)
Bugs --
One can't assign anything to Right click. This is the same trouble Lozorath ran into (DUF, GB) with Group Buttons. The only way he fixed it was to remap the right click button to something else.
Features --
Auto Rank or Rank healing needs to be put in. I don't run a lot of raids, and mostly I'm helping friends out in Lower instances. Why should I cast Greater Heal Rank 4 on a Level 20 Warrior? Thats a huge Overheal and kaboom we are all dead.
Features: Read the thread, its coming =)
Nurfed Alpha works fine, exept binding something to the MiddleButton, because Nurfed doesn't register the Click on it.
If you want to bind something to your middle mousebutton add "MiddleButtonUp" to RegisterForClicks in line 73 of Lib.lua
Sorry forgot to mention the frame...Both MG 64Pre4 and Nurfed ALpha (6.30.06)
Memory usage goes back to normal after zoning however.
Some addons do that when the config widow is open. It's not a leak as Cladhaire said.
If you use a "all in one" type bag addon or auctioneer or Kc Items, watch the memory usage when you open your bags or AH window, it will start to go up then as well.
Just thought I would bring it up.
At most I had an increasing rate spike for about 2 seconds after I clicked a spell to add to the Clique spell listing (tried this 5 times) of about 8Kib. Also witheh Clique config open I sat between 0.8 and 1.5KiB.
What other addons are you running along side Clique? What other mods do you have open?
Maybe Clique and another mod don't play nice together.
Just some ideas since I don't see the problem myself and I've configured Clique to 8 of my characters.
Will it cause some memory usage, yep. It'll all be garbage collected on the next pass.