I second that and while you are at it trash rock!. You cost me several hours trying to repair my cartographer sct fubar and many other addons I spent months tweeking.
Just dump that on us? you had a great thing going now it's broak.
Ya should of left it in beta or gave me a choice to have the old fubar cartographer config or the new.
I have back up but now i can not update anything because it pulls rock.
I really don't care for Rock at all. I liked FuBar as it was. But when I unload Rock, FuBar fails to load. Is this a requirement now? Or perhaps a workaround?
I believe the latest update includes a way to hide the minimap icon.
FuBar support is coming.
I updated, I did have some errors but most are fixed now. I did not lose any of my settings? So. I can't really help you there. It is possible to get the old versions back... hmm.
I really don't care for Rock at all. I liked FuBar as it was. But when I unload Rock, FuBar fails to load. Is this a requirement now? Or perhaps a workaround?
Well that's interesting. People took a fanboi liking to Ace for stupid reasons and now they hate Rock for similar stupid reasons.
I can tell you don't know what Rock is. All you know of it is that it's not placed a button on your screen that may look ugly. Not the best thing for addons to go around doing but the core Rock library isn't a bad library for it.
Anything you know or feel about Rock, forget it and drop it. Unless you plan to develop addons on a framework you don't need to know it even exists. Just concern yourselves with the state of the addons themselves. The button is planned to be removed soon so all the ugliness you've seen will go away.
I really don't care for Rock at all. I liked FuBar as it was. But when I unload Rock, FuBar fails to load. Is this a requirement now? Or perhaps a workaround?
Well that's interesting. People took a fanboi liking to Ace for stupid reasons and now they hate Rock for similar stupid reasons.
I can tell you don't know what Rock is. All you know of it is that it's not placed a button on your screen that may look ugly. Not the best thing for addons to go around doing but the core Rock library isn't a bad library for it.
Anything you know or feel about Rock, forget it and drop it. Unless you plan to develop addons on a framework you don't need to know it even exists. Just concern yourselves with the state of the addons themselves. The button is planned to be removed soon so all the ugliness you've seen will go away.
I could do without patronizing - if that was your intent. I failed to mention as well that I no longer have options for FuBar. Any time I rt click on the bar...Rock opens instead of the Fu options...ENTIRELY too large for the screen, I might add. I'd be happy with a simple answer to the original question I asked.
Well. to be honest you should backup your addons every time before you update them via. wherever.
I did so and I don't want rock. so i just got my old Cartographer, Parrot FuBar and PitBull; having no extra [rpblems now. no rock or anything. I will update these addons. but only once the rock will be gone or will be made more comfortable, as i liked the old Drop-Down menus to config some stuff such as FuBar and PitBull's Individual Unit Frames.
Thank You for letting me hide my Rock on the minimpa border. :)
As far as the actualy Rock configuration menu, I like it and enjoy it. It was always a bit of a pain in my backside to make adjustments with the old menu system. :)
Well. to be honest you should backup your addons every time before you update them
I used to, but after several months of updating without a single problem I guess I ended up with a false sense of security. LOL.
Oh well, lesson learned...
To whom it may (or may not) concern, a few of my addons have also now lost their configurations, behaving as though they were just freshly installed, and certain Fubar icons won't allow me to right-click to configure.
I've been using the new FuBar 3.0 and Cartographer versions based on the new Rock framework and if that's the preference of the development team (or even just "CK") then more power to you for the work done in implementing it.
My only concerns as a user are in terms of the usability of the addons. At the moment I don't appreciate the Rock icon on the minimap but this is trivial and I see signs in the discussions that it's probably going to be hide-able soon, if not already.
I would very much prefer it if the old right-click menus for configuring addons could be added to Rock and then leave the choice to users which route to use much as the Ace/Ace2 system had menus by default and then you could use DeuceCommander or Waterfall as per your preference.
The Rock config window is ugly (trivial but sets a poor impression) although functional but it makes the config process slower. For an example, if you started with an empty FuBar panel and wanted to select 10 new plugins to display on it, via the old Ace2 drop-down menu, you'd simply open the menu and then "tick-click" the ten plugins you wanted to be displayed.
Now, we have the Rock window, you locate the panel drop-down for selecting a plugin but now each time I select a plugin, the drop-down closes meaning it needs to be reopened and (assuming not all options fit in the space of the drop-down) re-scrolled to reach the same list point before continuing. Essentially, it's harder to use by a small but noticeable margin.
In addition, the replacement of the drop-down menus with a window based approach makes the config of options a "front and center" job where it's hard to do anything else at the same time due to the way the window covers the bulk of the screen. (Yes, I know it can be resized down to a certain min size but the point stands.) This is in contrast to the way it was easier to make on-the-fly changes via the menus because of their smaller footprint on-screen.
My hope is that in time, as the initial chaos of broken addons such as the current Cartographer nasties are solved and more time becomes available to refine this platform, then some of the old features like the right-click menu configurations will be implemented.
The current posts for all the new Rock based addons make the claim that "Configuration is done with the modern Rock Configuration instead of a bunch of confusing multi-level dropdown menus" and sadly the reality is really that the confusing dropdown menus are better formed and generally easier to use at this time. (And here, I've consulted across members of my guild to get an honest feeling for preference.) However, given the high standard of addons produced by CKKnight and the supporting team of developers I do not expect this will remain the case as time progresses.
Therefore, I guess we simply have to be patient to let the dust settle a bit and hope that our "favourite" features of the older Ace2 world will be implemented here in the new Rock world as time allows.
But for now, for a relatively smooth transition from one framework to another, a tip of the hat to you all for some very slick work done.
I updated, I did have some errors but most are fixed now. I did not lose any of my settings? So. I can't really help you there. It is possible to get the old versions back... hmm.
Well, I can say that it is 'different', and it may take a little while to get used to it..and I'm sure there will be more tweaking. BUT I can say it doubled my fps!! I was having a problem before, every 15 seconds or so my fps would drop to almost nothing for about 2 seconds, then come back up. Now that is gone and my fps is up to 55-60 fps with a crap load of mods!! And my Atlas maps re appeared after not showing for weeks. I'm still getting errors with Cartographer,but I'm sure they will be addressed soon.So, even though it was a quick change, I'll get used to it....I need fps more than anything!!
I have to admit. I upgraded to FuBar3 yesterday, and quickly went back to 2.0 because of Rock. The minimap icon did not really bug me, although ugly. What bugged me is that it is not anywhere near as user friendly as the old drop down menu was. I always liked to be able to quickly change which plugins were shown via 1-2 clicks. Where-as now with Rock, its like 5-20 clicks, and even then, I'm not sure it worked. Not to mention, when I open Rock, my entire screen is filled up. Thats not necessary imo. But this is just me. I would really like an option to not use rock.
I found this post by accident looking for something else entirely.
My question is, after reading a little into these posts, what is Rock specifically? Pardon my ignorance, but I didn't know anything about it till last night when I ran WAU and it suddenly appeared as a mini-map icon.
Personally I have to agree that I liked the original drop-down menu for FuBar and wouldn't mind having it back, but also having the ability to configure everything off a main menu is nice as well... my own opinion.
Edited: Found another forum pertaining to my deleted question. Will post there.
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I only ask because I went to Fubar to stop having multiple MOD icons on my minimap borders. :)
Just dump that on us? you had a great thing going now it's broak.
Ya should of left it in beta or gave me a choice to have the old fubar cartographer config or the new.
I have back up but now i can not update anything because it pulls rock.
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I updated, I did have some errors but most are fixed now. I did not lose any of my settings? So. I can't really help you there. It is possible to get the old versions back... hmm.
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Curse PremiumWell that's interesting. People took a fanboi liking to Ace for stupid reasons and now they hate Rock for similar stupid reasons.
I can tell you don't know what Rock is. All you know of it is that it's not placed a button on your screen that may look ugly. Not the best thing for addons to go around doing but the core Rock library isn't a bad library for it.
Anything you know or feel about Rock, forget it and drop it. Unless you plan to develop addons on a framework you don't need to know it even exists. Just concern yourselves with the state of the addons themselves. The button is planned to be removed soon so all the ugliness you've seen will go away.
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Curse PremiumIt was all a bad dream....
Haha.
I could do without patronizing - if that was your intent. I failed to mention as well that I no longer have options for FuBar. Any time I rt click on the bar...Rock opens instead of the Fu options...ENTIRELY too large for the screen, I might add. I'd be happy with a simple answer to the original question I asked.
How do I switch back to the Fubar menu system I'd grown to know and love?
I did so and I don't want rock. so i just got my old Cartographer, Parrot FuBar and PitBull; having no extra [rpblems now. no rock or anything. I will update these addons. but only once the rock will be gone or will be made more comfortable, as i liked the old Drop-Down menus to config some stuff such as FuBar and PitBull's Individual Unit Frames.
Nobody sits like this rock sits. You rock, rock. The rock just sits and is. You show us how to just sit here and that's what we need.
As far as the actualy Rock configuration menu, I like it and enjoy it. It was always a bit of a pain in my backside to make adjustments with the old menu system. :)
I used to, but after several months of updating without a single problem I guess I ended up with a false sense of security. LOL.
Oh well, lesson learned...
To whom it may (or may not) concern, a few of my addons have also now lost their configurations, behaving as though they were just freshly installed, and certain Fubar icons won't allow me to right-click to configure.
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Curse PremiumMy only concerns as a user are in terms of the usability of the addons. At the moment I don't appreciate the Rock icon on the minimap but this is trivial and I see signs in the discussions that it's probably going to be hide-able soon, if not already.
I would very much prefer it if the old right-click menus for configuring addons could be added to Rock and then leave the choice to users which route to use much as the Ace/Ace2 system had menus by default and then you could use DeuceCommander or Waterfall as per your preference.
The Rock config window is ugly (trivial but sets a poor impression) although functional but it makes the config process slower. For an example, if you started with an empty FuBar panel and wanted to select 10 new plugins to display on it, via the old Ace2 drop-down menu, you'd simply open the menu and then "tick-click" the ten plugins you wanted to be displayed.
Now, we have the Rock window, you locate the panel drop-down for selecting a plugin but now each time I select a plugin, the drop-down closes meaning it needs to be reopened and (assuming not all options fit in the space of the drop-down) re-scrolled to reach the same list point before continuing. Essentially, it's harder to use by a small but noticeable margin.
In addition, the replacement of the drop-down menus with a window based approach makes the config of options a "front and center" job where it's hard to do anything else at the same time due to the way the window covers the bulk of the screen. (Yes, I know it can be resized down to a certain min size but the point stands.) This is in contrast to the way it was easier to make on-the-fly changes via the menus because of their smaller footprint on-screen.
My hope is that in time, as the initial chaos of broken addons such as the current Cartographer nasties are solved and more time becomes available to refine this platform, then some of the old features like the right-click menu configurations will be implemented.
The current posts for all the new Rock based addons make the claim that "Configuration is done with the modern Rock Configuration instead of a bunch of confusing multi-level dropdown menus" and sadly the reality is really that the confusing dropdown menus are better formed and generally easier to use at this time. (And here, I've consulted across members of my guild to get an honest feeling for preference.) However, given the high standard of addons produced by CKKnight and the supporting team of developers I do not expect this will remain the case as time progresses.
Therefore, I guess we simply have to be patient to let the dust settle a bit and hope that our "favourite" features of the older Ace2 world will be implemented here in the new Rock world as time allows.
But for now, for a relatively smooth transition from one framework to another, a tip of the hat to you all for some very slick work done.
My question is, after reading a little into these posts, what is Rock specifically? Pardon my ignorance, but I didn't know anything about it till last night when I ran WAU and it suddenly appeared as a mini-map icon.
Personally I have to agree that I liked the original drop-down menu for FuBar and wouldn't mind having it back, but also having the ability to configure everything off a main menu is nice as well... my own opinion.
Edited: Found another forum pertaining to my deleted question. Will post there.
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