I'm confused... all of my addons from CurseGaming still aren't updating. I'm getting errors like the following:
2008-10-07 00:07:25: (WARN) Could not find GroupCalendar update date on page - is site ID correct?
If I try to re-add the addon using the "Install From -> URL..." option, I get the following:
2008-10-07 00:08:26: (WARN) Could not find __temp update date on page - is site ID correct?
2008-10-07 00:08:26: (ERROR) Error installing http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/group-calendar.aspx: Unable to get Online version: -1
Also, forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question but, did wowace get bought by curse or something? I've always thought that they were separate entities and that files.wowace.com was the preferred way to get the latest versions of certain addons.
Also, forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question but, did wowace get bought by curse or something? I've always thought that they were separate entities and that files.wowace.com was the preferred way to get the latest versions of certain addons.
Curse has been funding the bandwidth for Ace for quite some time now. Ace has always been a developer community, which was overrun by end users due to the popularity of the WAU and files.wowace.com - it was never meant to be an addon distribution site.
Most if not all addons hosted on wowace were bleeding-edge - not ready for primetime - yet they were being downloaded in droves anyway because of the one-click-get-it-all mentality.
Curse and WoWAce have done the merger in order to alleviate the bandwidth issues (especially on patch days) as well as re-inforce the fact that this is a developer community. End-users should be getting the release-quality versions of the addons from an addon release site.
Curse has been funding the bandwidth for Ace for quite some time now. Ace has always been a developer community, which was overrun by end users due to the popularity of the WAU and files.wowace.com - it was never meant to be an addon distribution site.
Most if not all addons hosted on wowace were bleeding-edge - not ready for primetime - yet they were being downloaded in droves anyway because of the one-click-get-it-all mentality.
Curse and WoWAce have done the merger in order to alleviate the bandwidth issues (especially on patch days) as well as re-inforce the fact that this is a developer community. End-users should be getting the release-quality versions of the addons from an addon release site.
OK, that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying it for me.
Sukrim, do you really want to make a second WoWMatrix? Authors already hate the first one...
Well, Curse.com is similar to that, only that authors upload their addons manually there...
What would speak against pulling Addons from Curse OR BitTorrent (tracked via PirateBay or DHT) to not waste much bandwidth from Curse? WUU would still get + update the same addons but just not download them only from Curse/wherever but also from other WUU-Users instead - the addons themselves would of course be the exact same releases as on the numerous sites...
WoWMatrix looks more like a "Let's pull all popular Addons from everywhere automatically to our server and host them" approach - btw. why would authors hate that?
Well, Curse.com is similar to that, only that authors upload their addons manually there...
What would speak against pulling Addons from Curse OR BitTorrent (tracked via PirateBay or DHT) to not waste much bandwidth from Curse? WUU would still get + update the same addons but just not download them only from Curse/wherever but also from other WUU-Users instead - the addons themselves would of course be the exact same releases as on the numerous sites...
WoWMatrix looks more like a "Let's pull all popular Addons from everywhere automatically to our server and host them" approach - btw. why would authors hate that?
The authors get no credit at all. Nothing about "Author: Dweebus" or any way to contact in case of bugs. Also, there is no guarantee that the version on WoWMatrix is even up to date.
WoWMatrix looks more like a "Let's pull all popular Addons from everywhere automatically to our server and host them" approach - btw. why would authors hate that?
Not to add to thread derailing, but WoWMatrix spiders the release sites for links, then burns hosting site bandwidth so u can download addons. Fact is that we Addon Authors have rights to our works, open source or not. We choose where they are hosted and who makes $$ off of hosting those addons. WoWMatrix seals bandwidth by deep linking on websites that are already dependant on ad $$ and only makes things worse.
WoWMatrix looks more like a "Let's pull all popular Addons from everywhere automatically to our server and host them" approach - btw. why would authors hate that?
in WUU, set the site to CurseGaming, and then in the site id you want to use everything after/details/ and before.aspx. So for GroupCalendar you would put group-calendar.
in WUU, set the site to CurseGaming, and then in the site id you want to use everything after/details/ and before.aspx. So for GroupCalendar you would put group-calendar.
is there an option to define which sub-package to install?
(I have how to explain it more precise in english.)
An example: I run AuctioneerClassicSuite, as I don't like the new style that much.
Today I noticed there's Ver. 5.0.0 available, and did an update via WUU ... and WUU installed AuctioneerFullSuite.
is there an option to define which sub-package to install?
(I have how to explain it more precise in english.)
An example: I run AuctioneerClassicSuite, as I don't like the new style that much.
Today I noticed there's Ver. 5.0.0 available, and did an update via WUU ... and WUU installed AuctioneerFullSuite.
The Auctioneer thing was intentional by the authors. Since the new version was officially released, they packaged both addons in one zip with instructions to simply disable the one you don't want - If you don't mind keeping it in your addon folder, that is. I believe in future releases they'll have them separate again and will eventually stop supporting the original version altogether.
Hi,
i'm not realy sure how to use WUU especialy with the new AceSVN to Curse move.
All ACE Addons are set to WOWAce as souce - but this must be Curse now. Should i reconfigurate all my self or how must this be done?
Regards Hendrik
Being an end user, and having read what these hard-working, dedicated and talented guys (Mod Developers) have been saying, I understand the reasoning behind moving away from using this site to distribute "release quality" mods to the end-user community.
My sympathies to Kaelten who was paying for all our usage bandwith chiefly from his own pocket. Ouch. :eek:
So, to the point! :p
Us end users need to change the place where we get our mods.
Tools like this are not strictly the problem, but the places where we point them are.
Having lost my beloved WoWAceUpdater (sob) which made keeping my mods updated very very simple (Killer App) I started to use this one instead.
The default locations stored for most of these mods (in the on-line locations database maintained by WUU's author (I think) still points to WoWAce.
Back to square one :) And the stuff on WoWace is not release build, its under development.
Be assured that the End User community does not want the latest nightly development build of a mod. Nosiree bob!
We have 2 courses of action. They are Paralell.
We can set our own source sites away from wowace to curse, etc on as many mods we can find, then upload our addon list from WUU. This should help to assemble the mod online database for WUU that points to the release-stable versions of mods on Curse, and other end-user mod distribution sites.
Secondly, the owners of the WUU online mod database can hopefully streamline this process, and allow the One-Touch Update function of WUU to use those locations by default.
In the perfect world, the only things the end-user community should get from WoWace directly are mods that are NOT sourced ANYWHERE else, and anything we have agreed to help BETA TEST for the developers here at WoWace.
I know this involves some work on all our parts, but we've all played a role in drowning the developer community here at WoWace with massive bandwidth demands, so we all have a role to play in helping resolve it.
Hi,
i'm not realy sure how to use WUU especialy with the new AceSVN to Curse move.
All ACE Addons are set to WOWAce as souce - but this must be Curse now. Should i reconfigurate all my self or how must this be done?
Regards Hendrik
If you edit the site for your mod to curse in WUU, the site id to get it working is the part of the curse url after the .../details/ part of the curse url (go look at the addon page on curse).
Hi,
is there a way to tell the WUU to update from Curse without the embedded Libs?
Right now it seems, i have to delete all the libs manually from my Addonsfolder, because the new versions will be loaded with those libs embedded.
Hi,
is there a way to tell the WUU to update from Curse without the embedded Libs?
Right now it seems, i have to delete all the libs manually from my Addonsfolder, because the new versions will be loaded with those libs embedded.
Nope, there's no way of doing that (as it's not really been a problem up until now :( )
Hi,
is there a way to tell the WUU to update from Curse without the embedded Libs?
Right now it seems, i have to delete all the libs manually from my Addonsfolder, because the new versions will be loaded with those libs embedded.
Right now, running embedded is the only way to go. LoD addons and disembedded libraries are currently broken in WoW 3.0.2 but are promised to be working again in 3.0.3.
I'm confused... all of my addons from CurseGaming still aren't updating. I'm getting errors like the following:
If I try to re-add the addon using the "Install From -> URL..." option, I get the following:
Also, forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question but, did wowace get bought by curse or something? I've always thought that they were separate entities and that files.wowace.com was the preferred way to get the latest versions of certain addons.
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Project AuthorCurse has been funding the bandwidth for Ace for quite some time now. Ace has always been a developer community, which was overrun by end users due to the popularity of the WAU and files.wowace.com - it was never meant to be an addon distribution site.
Most if not all addons hosted on wowace were bleeding-edge - not ready for primetime - yet they were being downloaded in droves anyway because of the one-click-get-it-all mentality.
Curse and WoWAce have done the merger in order to alleviate the bandwidth issues (especially on patch days) as well as re-inforce the fact that this is a developer community. End-users should be getting the release-quality versions of the addons from an addon release site.
OK, that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying it for me.
Well, Curse.com is similar to that, only that authors upload their addons manually there...
What would speak against pulling Addons from Curse OR BitTorrent (tracked via PirateBay or DHT) to not waste much bandwidth from Curse? WUU would still get + update the same addons but just not download them only from Curse/wherever but also from other WUU-Users instead - the addons themselves would of course be the exact same releases as on the numerous sites...
WoWMatrix looks more like a "Let's pull all popular Addons from everywhere automatically to our server and host them" approach - btw. why would authors hate that?
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Project AuthorThe authors get no credit at all. Nothing about "Author: Dweebus" or any way to contact in case of bugs. Also, there is no guarantee that the version on WoWMatrix is even up to date.
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Curse PremiumNot to add to thread derailing, but WoWMatrix spiders the release sites for links, then burns hosting site bandwidth so u can download addons. Fact is that we Addon Authors have rights to our works, open source or not. We choose where they are hosted and who makes $$ off of hosting those addons. WoWMatrix seals bandwidth by deep linking on websites that are already dependant on ad $$ and only makes things worse.
Read this ;)
Do what i did, take an hour and redefine allyour links.
For instance, GroupCalendar. This is the URL:
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/group-calendar.aspx
in WUU, set the site to CurseGaming, and then in the site id you want to use everything after/details/ and before.aspx. So for GroupCalendar you would put group-calendar.
works like a charm.
That was it! Thank you VERY much!
is there an option to define which sub-package to install?
(I have how to explain it more precise in english.)
An example: I run AuctioneerClassicSuite, as I don't like the new style that much.
Today I noticed there's Ver. 5.0.0 available, and did an update via WUU ... and WUU installed AuctioneerFullSuite.
Another example is Forte Warlock Localization (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8580-ForteWarlockLocalization.html) ... I can't add it via AddOn -> Install From -> URL.
WUU Event Log says:
2008-10-08 06:33:20: (ERROR) Error installing http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8580-ForteWarlockLocalization.html: Couldn't find any addons in archive - installation aborted
2008-10-08 06:33:54: (ERROR) Error installing http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8580-ForteWarlockLocalization: Couldn't find any addons in archive - installation aborted
If you have any hint: please let me know :)
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Project AuthorThe Auctioneer thing was intentional by the authors. Since the new version was officially released, they packaged both addons in one zip with instructions to simply disable the one you don't want - If you don't mind keeping it in your addon folder, that is. I believe in future releases they'll have them separate again and will eventually stop supporting the original version altogether.
i'm not realy sure how to use WUU especialy with the new AceSVN to Curse move.
All ACE Addons are set to WOWAce as souce - but this must be Curse now. Should i reconfigurate all my self or how must this be done?
Regards Hendrik
Being an end user, and having read what these hard-working, dedicated and talented guys (Mod Developers) have been saying, I understand the reasoning behind moving away from using this site to distribute "release quality" mods to the end-user community.
My sympathies to Kaelten who was paying for all our usage bandwith chiefly from his own pocket. Ouch. :eek:
So, to the point! :p
Us end users need to change the place where we get our mods.
Tools like this are not strictly the problem, but the places where we point them are.
Having lost my beloved WoWAceUpdater (sob) which made keeping my mods updated very very simple (Killer App) I started to use this one instead.
The default locations stored for most of these mods (in the on-line locations database maintained by WUU's author (I think) still points to WoWAce.
Back to square one :) And the stuff on WoWace is not release build, its under development.
Be assured that the End User community does not want the latest nightly development build of a mod. Nosiree bob!
We have 2 courses of action. They are Paralell.
We can set our own source sites away from wowace to curse, etc on as many mods we can find, then upload our addon list from WUU. This should help to assemble the mod online database for WUU that points to the release-stable versions of mods on Curse, and other end-user mod distribution sites.
Secondly, the owners of the WUU online mod database can hopefully streamline this process, and allow the One-Touch Update function of WUU to use those locations by default.
In the perfect world, the only things the end-user community should get from WoWace directly are mods that are NOT sourced ANYWHERE else, and anything we have agreed to help BETA TEST for the developers here at WoWace.
I know this involves some work on all our parts, but we've all played a role in drowning the developer community here at WoWace with massive bandwidth demands, so we all have a role to play in helping resolve it.
If you edit the site for your mod to curse in WUU, the site id to get it working is the part of the curse url after the .../details/ part of the curse url (go look at the addon page on curse).
Example : Omen (the threat meter)
URL for mod on curse :
So the WUU entry needs a :
source site of Curse (dropdown list)
site id of
This allows WUU to locate the download within the mod page.
This pattern works for all the curse published mods I've tried so far.
Hope that helps!
is there a way to tell the WUU to update from Curse without the embedded Libs?
Right now it seems, i have to delete all the libs manually from my Addonsfolder, because the new versions will be loaded with those libs embedded.
Nope, there's no way of doing that (as it's not really been a problem up until now :( )
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Project AuthorRight now, running embedded is the only way to go. LoD addons and disembedded libraries are currently broken in WoW 3.0.2 but are promised to be working again in 3.0.3.
Yeah, there's a bug in the curse version code - I'm fixing that for the next release.