Its running right now and seems to be stuck in this loop where it continues to download and install the same 8 addons over and over and over. I didn't even TELL it to do any updates. I simply signed in with username and password and it took off on its own and started updated mods. The log shows them being updated with the same versions in a non ending loop.
I forced a shutdown of CC in task manager, and that action corrupted an addon.
Its running right now and seems to be stuck in this loop where it continues to download and install the same 8 addons over and over and over. I didn't even TELL it to do any updates. I simply signed in with username and password and it took off on its own and started updated mods. The log shows them being updated with the same versions in a non ending loop.
I forced a shutdown of CC in task manager, and that action corrupted an addon.
CC is probably still in 'premium' mode. There should be an option to update addons at login. Turn it off.
That's still not an explanation for why it would keep redownloading the same addons repeatedly.
I'm still scared as hell to try CC again after being bitten again a week or two ago. I'm trying to work up the will to try again this weekend because it's getting painful installing manually (let alone updating).
My attempts at manually installing stuff ended in fire and pain on P-Day. I finally bit the bullet and decided that on P-Day + 1, I would try again, but this time try to do it all through the Curse Client.
I downloaded the newest version of the client. I turned off auto-update. I went into my Docs and Settings and cleared out all the cached CC stuff from previous installs and wiped my Addons folder clean. I tried to find everything through the search in the client. I only downloaded stuff manually when it wasn't listed.
EDIT: Also, I set it to download Beta-level packages, just in case.
Amazingly, it went very well. Most of the stuff I wanted, I was able to find through the search. Every addon I found and selected for download was in fact the newest, working and correct version of what I was intending to find.
I went through on my Paladin alt's list of enabled addons yesterday. Today I'm going to try to tackle my Druid who has a good bit more. I hope today is as smooth as yesterday was.
As an aside, I think people totally misunderstood what "auto-update" means for the new client. It's certainly not click-once-update like the WAU used to have. As it is, it's not really anything I would want to happen since I want to actually press a button to update stuff, generally. I have no problem clicking to update stuff individually. Maybe I'll get a premium account just to support the work that everyone has done on this process, but I'll probably leave auto turned off.
I know nobody knows who I am -- I've lurked and read posts here for quite a while. I don't write addons but I do code for a living. I appreciate the value of this community quite a bit. Hopefully you'll take the opinions and experience of someone with one post as valid :).
I just downloaded the Curse Client and have similiar problems to yours. It's amazing what the developers here can create such a great program such as WoW ace updater but curse client SUCKS LIKE HELL. I am in the process of uninstalling it. Seriously, what do you guys need? Do you guys need bandwidth? How much money do you need to maintain it? How much bandwidth do you guys need? I am sure someone in the billion players will come and help.
I just downloaded the Curse Client and have similiar problems to yours. It's amazing what the developers here can create such a great program such as WoW ace updater but curse client SUCKS LIKE HELL. I am in the process of uninstalling it. Seriously, what do you guys need? Do you guys need bandwidth? How much money do you need to maintain it? How much bandwidth do you guys need? I am sure someone in the billion players will come and help.
The author for WAU and the Curse Client are not the same.
I just downloaded the Curse Client and have similiar problems to yours. It's amazing what the developers here can create such a great program such as WoW ace updater but curse client SUCKS LIKE HELL. I am in the process of uninstalling it. Seriously, what do you guys need? Do you guys need bandwidth? How much money do you need to maintain it? How much bandwidth do you guys need? I am sure someone in the billion players will come and help.
agreed. I gave up on the app as well. Uninstalled.
The author for WAU and the Curse Client are not the same.
I did not mean that, I meant to basically say that the authors of WAU are so much more brilliant in what they did compared to Curse Gaming whom are paid developers who you would expect have a slight bit of what user friendliness is like. Then my next few comments were basically saying, that there is such a humongous community out for WoW, for the budget issues and time constraint problems WoWAce Developers were having, I am like 86% sure that they would've gotten enough support from the communication financially to keep the project alive and kicking.
I did not mean that, I meant to basically say that the authors of WAU are so much more brilliant in what they did compared to Curse Gaming whom are paid developers who you would expect have a slight bit of what user friendliness is like. Then my next few comments were basically saying, that there is such a humongous community out for WoW, for the budget issues and time constraint problems WoWAce Developers were having, I am like 86% sure that they would've gotten enough support from the communication financially to keep the project alive and kicking.
Sigh.
The WAU programmers used a unified, single source control repository to come up with a list of add-ons. They compared this list to a list of folders on your hard drive. Oh yeah, rocket science.
Can we please get it into our heads by now that Curse Client is not like that and cannot be like that?
It operates from different principles, using different assumptions, from a far larger pool of add-ons, many of which are sloppy, many more of which are copies of other add-ons, and at one point some of which were even compilations of add-ons. Hello? None of this ever happened within the WowAce SVN. So the WAU never had to deal with it! CC is not and cannot be WAU!
The WAU programmers used a unified, single source control repository to come up with a list of add-ons. They compared this list to a list of folders on your hard drive. Oh yeah, rocket science.
Can we please get it into our heads by now that Curse Client is not like that and cannot be like that?
It operates from different principles, using different assumptions, from a far larger pool of add-ons, many of which are sloppy, many more of which are copies of other add-ons, and at one point some of which were even compilations of add-ons. Hello? None of this ever happened within the WowAce SVN. So the WAU never had to deal with it! CC is not and cannot be WAU!
Being a software developer, I wouldn't think it would be really that hard... there are standards created by Blizzard (.toc files) to help categorize and index addons. From what I read, and I could be mistaken...you make it sound like it is.
But what is the probably some of the factors of why the CC client is the way it is, is because I would think they would want to restrict the amount of content (Addons in this case) leaving their site without having actual traffic to the main website to drive site traffic from advertising dollars.
Other reason for a restricted client would security, bandwidth and experience vs pay ratio of the developers at curse.com.
If they made the client so good that you never need to visit the website... you probably wouldn't. So then traffic would decrease and so would their advertising dollars.
What I feel they need is a client that drives interaction with the main site. You browse and find the addon you want to download by using the tools on the main site. Add the addon to your "favorites" list. Then using the client tool, download the addon and use the tool to check the addons on your favorites list to see if newer versions are available.
I definitely think there's a lot of room for improvement with the CC. All I was really saying is that determining a strong association between the folder on your hard drive and the add-on on the web site is difficult at best for Curse. For WowAce, it was a walk in the park by comparison. I'm just tired of people saying that the WAU developers were pro and the CC devs suck (even though it may indeed be the truth, I don't know). I just want people to understand that now that the updater is working with all of Curse, the problems are much larger and require a different way of thinking than with WAU. WAU had it easy by comparison.
All that functionality is actually in the tool, it just needs to be improved. While I personally understand that takes time, keep in mind the average user just suddenly had a very simple, reliable tool yanked from them, and the tauted replacement falls far short of their desires.
The difficulty of matching folders to addons doesn't apply to the number 1 issue though: autoupdate defaults to on. Joe User doesn't expect it to hose their addon folder first thing all on it's own. With no chance to exclude folders, people have to restore from backups, if they were saavy enough to have backups in the first place.
All that functionality is actually in the tool, it just needs to be improved. While I personally understand that takes time, keep in mind the average user just suddenly had a very simple, reliable tool yanked from them, and the tauted replacement falls far short of their desires.
The difficulty of matching folders to addons doesn't apply to the number 1 issue though: autoupdate defaults to on. Joe User doesn't expect it to hose their addon folder first thing all on it's own. With no chance to exclude folders, people have to restore from backups, if they were saavy enough to have backups in the first place.
All that functionality is actually in the tool, it just needs to be improved. While I personally understand that takes time, keep in mind the average user just suddenly had a very simple, reliable tool yanked from them, and the tauted replacement falls far short of their desires.
The difficulty of matching folders to addons doesn't apply to the number 1 issue though: autoupdate defaults to on. Joe User doesn't expect it to hose their addon folder first thing all on it's own. With no chance to exclude folders, people have to restore from backups, if they were saavy enough to have backups in the first place.
Why didn't wau just go pay for use? Imagine if you charged anyone who used it $4.99 a month or something. I wouldnt have had a problem paying a little bit for something that was so user friendly. I am trying to give the CC a chance, but so far all I've seen are problems, bugs, and unwanted behaviors. I wish they had at least kept wau around until CC was a bit more polished.
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I forced a shutdown of CC in task manager, and that action corrupted an addon.
CC is probably still in 'premium' mode. There should be an option to update addons at login. Turn it off.
I'm still scared as hell to try CC again after being bitten again a week or two ago. I'm trying to work up the will to try again this weekend because it's getting painful installing manually (let alone updating).
I downloaded the newest version of the client. I turned off auto-update. I went into my Docs and Settings and cleared out all the cached CC stuff from previous installs and wiped my Addons folder clean. I tried to find everything through the search in the client. I only downloaded stuff manually when it wasn't listed.
EDIT: Also, I set it to download Beta-level packages, just in case.
Amazingly, it went very well. Most of the stuff I wanted, I was able to find through the search. Every addon I found and selected for download was in fact the newest, working and correct version of what I was intending to find.
I went through on my Paladin alt's list of enabled addons yesterday. Today I'm going to try to tackle my Druid who has a good bit more. I hope today is as smooth as yesterday was.
As an aside, I think people totally misunderstood what "auto-update" means for the new client. It's certainly not click-once-update like the WAU used to have. As it is, it's not really anything I would want to happen since I want to actually press a button to update stuff, generally. I have no problem clicking to update stuff individually. Maybe I'll get a premium account just to support the work that everyone has done on this process, but I'll probably leave auto turned off.
I know nobody knows who I am -- I've lurked and read posts here for quite a while. I don't write addons but I do code for a living. I appreciate the value of this community quite a bit. Hopefully you'll take the opinions and experience of someone with one post as valid :).
The author for WAU and the Curse Client are not the same.
agreed. I gave up on the app as well. Uninstalled.
Add me to the list. I might try it when it's more user friendly like WAU. It's nowhere near as useful or intuitive.
Uninstalled mac osx version too, was messing them up somehow, installing them manually were working fine. Miss WAU so much /cry
I did not mean that, I meant to basically say that the authors of WAU are so much more brilliant in what they did compared to Curse Gaming whom are paid developers who you would expect have a slight bit of what user friendliness is like. Then my next few comments were basically saying, that there is such a humongous community out for WoW, for the budget issues and time constraint problems WoWAce Developers were having, I am like 86% sure that they would've gotten enough support from the communication financially to keep the project alive and kicking.
Sigh.
The WAU programmers used a unified, single source control repository to come up with a list of add-ons. They compared this list to a list of folders on your hard drive. Oh yeah, rocket science.
Can we please get it into our heads by now that Curse Client is not like that and cannot be like that?
It operates from different principles, using different assumptions, from a far larger pool of add-ons, many of which are sloppy, many more of which are copies of other add-ons, and at one point some of which were even compilations of add-ons. Hello? None of this ever happened within the WowAce SVN. So the WAU never had to deal with it! CC is not and cannot be WAU!
Being a software developer, I wouldn't think it would be really that hard... there are standards created by Blizzard (.toc files) to help categorize and index addons. From what I read, and I could be mistaken...you make it sound like it is.
But what is the probably some of the factors of why the CC client is the way it is, is because I would think they would want to restrict the amount of content (Addons in this case) leaving their site without having actual traffic to the main website to drive site traffic from advertising dollars.
Other reason for a restricted client would security, bandwidth and experience vs pay ratio of the developers at curse.com.
If they made the client so good that you never need to visit the website... you probably wouldn't. So then traffic would decrease and so would their advertising dollars.
What I feel they need is a client that drives interaction with the main site. You browse and find the addon you want to download by using the tools on the main site. Add the addon to your "favorites" list. Then using the client tool, download the addon and use the tool to check the addons on your favorites list to see if newer versions are available.
The difficulty of matching folders to addons doesn't apply to the number 1 issue though: autoupdate defaults to on. Joe User doesn't expect it to hose their addon folder first thing all on it's own. With no chance to exclude folders, people have to restore from backups, if they were saavy enough to have backups in the first place.
I agree with you 100%.
Seconded.
Oh, wait...