I have been running it for a few hours now (beta 1 x64). Tried previous build virtually before. But never on a real machine. I must say I like it so far. No problems what so ever. All hardware working just fine after installation (nVidia drivers was added after first login). Hard to get used to some things, but hopefully I'll learn :-P But it feels like Vista without annoyances and more polished.
I want to run it on my laptop.. gonna install it after cleaned it up :)
Anyone knows how I can do a backup of my current installation that I can put back (if needed) ? :x
I had issues with the following things:
* a few motherboard drivers (solved via vista compatibility install)
* creative drivers for my sound card (xtreme gamer) (solved via vista compatibility install)
* intellipoint drivers (solved via not using it)
Now, forcing vista compatibility when installing drivers is _probably_ not a good idea, but it worked for me.
Hehe that's nice Tuller. But if you run the drivers installation program in compatibility mode doesn't only make the installer run in that mode?
I found two problems after some more testing.
The sound is just working fine with my on board AC97 crap. But with the Vista drivers (from Realtek) I could change what jack is used for different channels. Doesn't seems to work in Win7s included drivers.
Google Chrome was not working properly. Solved easily by adding "âin-process-plugins" in the end of the target exe in the shortcut. Read more here.
Tell me they aren't making a 32-bit version. No-one is going to be running it on a 32-bit system, and all new systems bundled with it are 64-bit. For the love of God they better not be releasing a 32-bit version. That's how they can stagnate the entire IT industry for yet another generation.
I'm using it as my main OS atm, it's been working near flawlessly. The only problem I had was that they didn't bundle my Attansic/Aetheros NIC drivers.
Laptop + USB stick = Win.
Windows Update had the drivers, but it's sort of hard to get to WU without internets XD
Other than that, I've ran into some folder view problems in the Libraries. Nothing major, just that when browsing a folder via Libraries, it ignores folder view settings you made outside said function. Also, if you change the view for one folder it changes it for ALL folders in this Library.
Sleep Mode isn't working right either, it wouldn't shut down properly so I had to hold my power button down to get the computer to quiet up.
Feedback was sent on all these problems.
Beyond that, it's been working great. It's way faster than Vista in all areas, and I'm really glad I took the plunge :)
It doesn't have any real new features thus why you cant find anything mentioning them. It will still have the same problems that Vista has as mentioned on http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html and so I will not be using it or Vista as my home OS, ever.
There's nothing to me that I'm really noticing as being "way faster" that I cannot attribute to doing a clean install. Then again, my machine wasn't exactly the slowest machine in the world in the first place.
There's nothing to me that I'm really noticing as being "way faster" that I cannot attribute to doing a clean install. Then again, my machine wasn't exactly the slowest machine in the world in the first place.
I do like the explorer changes, though.
Its explained in the video what the enhancements to performance are about, the performance improvments are really more future oriented. Its not really going to be "alot faster" for most of the existing users.
(he also talks about vista compatability mode for drivers, and what it means)
The option to be able to backup your old OS is also an awesome and nifty feature that I will never forget. For Win users it makes a dir called Windows.old containing the following folders: Windows, Program Files (at least for Vista, and I'm uncertain about XP compatibility) and Users on the same partition/HDD.
Mostly noticeable is the superbar that makes the s.k "taskbar" even more usable than before. The Aero theme was spiffed up along with it's glassy feature like most have mentioned. I'm an vLiter myself so I got about 100mb of RAM more to work with after disabling/removing most components/services compared to my Vista "builds" which I shouldn't have even bothered with buying in the first place....
The first thing a normal user should do is to turn off UAC before doing anything else, as it's a hog that's been left since it's predecessor. Most NVIDIA users including myself suffered from occasional BSOD's because of unstable Vista/7 drivers, and this have finally been fixed \o/
Virtual hard disks "VHD" is another feature that's currently not finished, but will be released once 7 goes gold.
UAC is actually a very good feature. The problem is that it comes up more often than it needs to because of bad programming. In the early days of Vista, lots of third-party applications were asking the OS for full permissions when they didn't really need it. This isn't really the case now-a-days.
I have UAC enabled (I've never disabled it, actually), and in a user session when there aren't security updates or WoW patches or anything, I only see one single UAC prompt: Ventrilo needs to run with full permissions for my Push-To-Talk button to work. That's all. And I'd much rather know that a program was about to be escalated than not know.
Obviously, UAC is quite frustrating when doing clean installs (especially across multiple systems simlutaneously), but it gets a bad wrap. Vista and 7 are just trying to be as secure as MacOS and the *Nixes.
It doesn't have any real new features thus why you cant find anything mentioning them. It will still have the same problems that Vista has as mentioned on http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html and so I will not be using it or Vista as my home OS, ever.
Thats a lot of text and I can see why he hates Windows/Vista so much. Still doesn't beat the fact that Windows 7 will bring more people back to Microsoft Windows.
It does have its new features and you can notice a little difference from using Vista and Windows 7.
So, anyone else running it? Opinions?
Anyone knows how I can do a backup of my current installation that I can put back (if needed) ? :x
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Curse PremiumNorton Ghost, Acronis Trueimage, Paragon Hard Disk Manager or equivalent utility.
All I mentioned are commercial products, I can't remember off the top of my head if open source or freeware alternatives exist.
^^ There ya go
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Curse Premium* a few motherboard drivers (solved via vista compatibility install)
* creative drivers for my sound card (xtreme gamer) (solved via vista compatibility install)
* intellipoint drivers (solved via not using it)
Now, forcing vista compatibility when installing drivers is _probably_ not a good idea, but it worked for me.
I found two problems after some more testing.
The sound is just working fine with my on board AC97 crap. But with the Vista drivers (from Realtek) I could change what jack is used for different channels. Doesn't seems to work in Win7s included drivers.
Google Chrome was not working properly. Solved easily by adding "âin-process-plugins" in the end of the target exe in the shortcut. Read more here.
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Curse PremiumLaptop + USB stick = Win.
Windows Update had the drivers, but it's sort of hard to get to WU without internets XD
Other than that, I've ran into some folder view problems in the Libraries. Nothing major, just that when browsing a folder via Libraries, it ignores folder view settings you made outside said function. Also, if you change the view for one folder it changes it for ALL folders in this Library.
Sleep Mode isn't working right either, it wouldn't shut down properly so I had to hold my power button down to get the computer to quiet up.
Feedback was sent on all these problems.
Beyond that, it's been working great. It's way faster than Vista in all areas, and I'm really glad I took the plunge :)
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Curse Premiumhttp://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going%20Deep/Mark-Russinovich-Inside-Windows-7/
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Curse Premiumsometime after you started playing wow
lets see he talks about these among other things:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/Sysinternals/MoreThan64proc.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pnppwr/powermgmt/BackgroundProcs.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/Device/DeviceExperience/ContainerIDs.mspx
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Curse PremiumI do like the explorer changes, though.
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Curse PremiumIts explained in the video what the enhancements to performance are about, the performance improvments are really more future oriented. Its not really going to be "alot faster" for most of the existing users.
(he also talks about vista compatability mode for drivers, and what it means)
Mostly noticeable is the superbar that makes the s.k "taskbar" even more usable than before. The Aero theme was spiffed up along with it's glassy feature like most have mentioned. I'm an vLiter myself so I got about 100mb of RAM more to work with after disabling/removing most components/services compared to my Vista "builds" which I shouldn't have even bothered with buying in the first place....
The first thing a normal user should do is to turn off UAC before doing anything else, as it's a hog that's been left since it's predecessor. Most NVIDIA users including myself suffered from occasional BSOD's because of unstable Vista/7 drivers, and this have finally been fixed \o/
Virtual hard disks "VHD" is another feature that's currently not finished, but will be released once 7 goes gold.
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Curse PremiumI have UAC enabled (I've never disabled it, actually), and in a user session when there aren't security updates or WoW patches or anything, I only see one single UAC prompt: Ventrilo needs to run with full permissions for my Push-To-Talk button to work. That's all. And I'd much rather know that a program was about to be escalated than not know.
Obviously, UAC is quite frustrating when doing clean installs (especially across multiple systems simlutaneously), but it gets a bad wrap. Vista and 7 are just trying to be as secure as MacOS and the *Nixes.
Thats a lot of text and I can see why he hates Windows/Vista so much. Still doesn't beat the fact that Windows 7 will bring more people back to Microsoft Windows.
It does have its new features and you can notice a little difference from using Vista and Windows 7.