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So does anyone foresee how bad 3.1 is going to kill our mods? I just keep reading all these new interface options they are adding to the default UI, I just know when I log after the patch my screen is going to explode :confused:

I copypasted all my addons over to the PTR-client, and only a few doesn't work, so it's not bad. And debuff monitor addons are going to need a tiny update, as they changed the behaviour a little on "isMine" for UnitAura().

I actually had an error with oUF 1.3.8 on PTR. Something about threat...

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I don't know why people freak out before they know for certain that things will break. :p

Because they use poorly written addons that do break every patch, and think that this is the norm?

There is no severe breakage in 3.1 so far, at least nothing that cannot be addressed by some simple fixes. Of the top of my head, addons using the UnitAura/UnitBuff/UnitDebuff API will need to be modified to use a unit token instead of a boolean for the old 'isMine' return value, addons using deeply nested dropdowns (more than 2 levels) will need to invoke the listframe creation function directly (assuming that Blizzard doesn't do anything about it) and of course addons using the quest tracker might need some tinkering with as well.

All in all, it should be a semi-smooth transition. I can think of a couple of patches that introduced a lot more serious changes.

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All in all, it should be a semi-smooth transition. I can think of a couple of patches that introduced a lot more serious changes.

Well, for Talented, it's been the worst patch so far, by a fair margin. It's for the better, though.

The latest PTR added another layer of complexity, with this nasty thing:

if select(2, UnitClass"player") == "PALADIN" then assert(GetNumTalents(2) > 9 and not GetTalentInfo(2, 9)) end

Basically for me all minimap-related and achievement-related addons broke, for the simple reasons that stuff changed for these. I don't use talented but I can see that being a pita transition. Addons replacing the LFG interface would be affected, except that I'm unaware that anybody has even gone there.

Else virtually everything "worked".

I think 3.1 has a lot of potential for new functionality or missing functionality, like arena frames for unit frame addons. Or people just dumping their equipment addons or waiting for clean rewrites of the ones they use, or getting new ones.

Also to be seen how much stuff that works should really work better using animations.

One of the main areas of cool things to come is equipment management. In principle it's now much easier to equip compare, inventory markup. bag search, bag filtering or stat comparison based on gear sets than before because you can get the items from API calls. Also different addons will now just automatically be compatible when using the API, which is very cool.

Druids for example will be very happy to be able to see how an item compares to their tank set while they are on tree duty really quickly given an adaptive equipment comparison tooltip that uses gear sets ;)

It's also much easier to do stuff by "gear slot in inventory", so if someone wants to find unused equippable items in their bags, there is now a fairly direct way to do this.

Ah Jesus, I did forget all about the dual spec. I feel your pain there, considering that up to the last PTR build, there were serious bugs when it came to spec switching (especially in terms of glyphs). But yeah, should be for the best. The idea of having talent templates on Talented that can be optionally applied to the dual spec, is imo one of the greatest implementations in a while.

As you can't unlearn talents for your alternate spec, I did not try to learn talents on the alternate spec at all. The API may allow that, but trying it out is difficult. Right now, you can't change the alternate spec in Talented (as well as in the default UI).

I'll try a few things, if I can find enough gold to unlearn the two specs in the PTR.

And the new GetPlayerFacing(), the chat filters...

Also, has anyone looked into those arena frames? Is this a built-in Proximo? I haven't seen much comment from unitframe addon authors regarding this new feature.

Jerry, are you US or EU? If US, I'll send you gold on the PTR. Gold is immaterial on there (hint to all the idiots selling stuff at outrageous prices on there: quit it).

EU, but thanks for the offer.

I'm ranting a bit :-) I still have one transfer slot, so I can get money in the PTR

Yeah I really don't know why people insist on trying to make silly gold on the PTR, its most odd.

Jerry I'm EU and have rather a lot of gold with me on the PTR so I'd be more than happy to send you some pocket money if you'd like :)

I have checked every way I could think of and I'm pretty confident that the API does not in fact allow to allocate talent points in the alternate spec at all. To be honest, I was a little bit scared that it might become very confusing for players if it was possible.

The default UI differentiate between the current and alternate spec using saturation of the background texture. While I chose to keep this idea for the glyph frame, I also chose not to use it for the Talented window, as I think that long time users of Talented will have the immediate understanding that their view might be of a template rather than a spec. Talented offer a read-only view of the alternate spec.

I just experienced being kicked from the server if i had my complete addon armada enabled -- or the client just crashed with an assertion error.

I think chatter choked before i disabled it on some 'string expected got table' or similar.

My favourite addon http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8881-UnitFrameBuffs.html#info is completely broken on the PTR, it complains about state drivers and such, I wish there was another addon that did the same thing, since the author doesn't really work much on addons anymore.

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My favourite addon http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8881-UnitFrameBuffs.html#info is completely broken on the PTR, it complains about state drivers and such, I wish there was another addon that did the same thing, since the author doesn't really work much on addons anymore.

Possibly an "isMine" issue.

Originally Posted by Adirelle
I just noticed that UnitAura (and the likes) returns a unit token instead of a boolean for "isMine" in 3.1 (confirmation). Notice that it returns "npc" for anything that is not in the party/raid and do not have a valid unit (like "target" or "focus").

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Possibly an "isMine" issue.

As far as I remember they didn't implement the "isMine" change until a few builds after the PTR went up and that mod was broken since the very start of the 3.1 PTR.