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I vote for a purge of all authors with a post count over 100. They clearly aren't spending enough time working on their addons and are instead trolling the forums!

Quote from Industrial »

08:05 < Industrial><snip> anything below toc 20100<snip>

Just because it doesn't have toc 20100 doesn't mean it won't work.

Out of all the addons in /trunk, there is only 1 addon that does not have a Interface of at least 20000 and that is a FixMe addon that does nothing.

I have no solution to offer that would make purging automated, so I apologize. But I would like to voice an opinion on this matter.

I agree with a need to purge, but what is the cut off TOC number? As some have stated, some addons have outdated TOC numbers, yet still work. So TOC numbers as cut off wouldn't be the best solution, imho.

I know what I am about to suggest will require some work, so again I apologize for that :( But perhaps the more suitable solution would be to change the current tagging system?
eg.
/trunk -- working but under dev so it can break, accessible through WAU only with a setting enabled, which is disabled by default.
/branches -- same it does now. Normally not accessed through WAU.
/tags -- acting as a backup or pre-major change setter like it does now,not accessed through WAU
/releases -- working versions for the current WoW version -- defaulted to be accessed through WAU. Per WoW version there can be a new release or multiple even, but use the system /trunk currently does to update the versions etc.

Something like this would allow devs to work on their addons, bump them to release, decrease the size of the xml list and more importantly decrease the amount of "wtf!!111 this suxors its not working!!!111 fix it now!!11" Because the average user won't be pulling the bleeding edge anymore, but tested and tried versions. Bugs will still occur, they always will - but this might help limit that amount of posts.

This sadly would involve testing all current addons, tagging them accordingly (provided the author isn't willing to do that). And will lead to the removal of some addons as well - I can't give examples, but I am sure there are one or two that will fit the deletion bill.

All of this is of course, just an idea based on some other posts I've read, I even vaguely recall a thread where something like this was discussed, perhaps even discarded.

Sylvanaar, I just wanted to take a moment as well, to thank you (and everyone else) for all the very hard work that went into addons and WAU, maintaining this site - the community. I know that some of the changes I am poking towards may lead to yet another set of sleepless nights for WAU, but like I said - it's merely an idea from someone who loves this community, uses WAU and SVN and would love to see this community thrive even more :)

Why not go with the system thats been suggested 500000 times, and uses exactly the same thing SVN is setup for?

/trunk - Development, but still somewhat stable
/branches - Really alpha, working with PTR, ect
/tags - Stable, tagged at a version that has no known major bugs kind of thing.

WAU pulls from /tags, /branches and /trunk have to manually be pulled down from or a giant files.wowace.com page specifically listing it as beta so you force authors to move to usage of /tags to give users WAU access. There you go, you've solved the entire problem and you don't even have to make a new SVN folder, if the author doesn't want to tag, then users can't access their mods from WAU.
You don't need any special or fancy folder setup, just use exactly what the current ones are supposed to be used for.

Quote from Xinhuan »

We discussed this 6 months ago. We were promised changes to the SVN system. But hey, it was all vaporware discussion, as I have not seen/heard anything since last October about the "new SVN format"

Pretty much, someone asks, get told it's coming, wait a few months, repeat.

Quote from OrionShock »

if you set the toc limit to 20400 when 2.4 hits then authors will get the idea to either bump the toc file or update their addon. not the best solution but, some what effective.

Actually, that's a simply but effective method come to think of it. Would solve some crap in an easy way.

What about all the addons that work perfectly fine but whose authors have vanished into the nether?

Quote from Pastamancer »

The xml file compresses nicely and WAU/your browser should be negotiating gzip encoding to get it compressed over-the-wire.

before I got my new computer that replaced my p4 at work I could get a cup of tea until python had finished parsing the xml into a data structure :)

I don't really see a solution here.. moving old addons from /trunk to /archive or something like that might be a temporary solution but won't change the problem itself.

Is there data that tracks which addons get revision checks for or get downloaded (and which don't)?

If that data exists one can detect idle addons. Revision checks indicate that updaters still use that addon even if it's old and stable and never sees any updates. Also fresh downloads of old addons would indicate that the addon is desirable.

Addons that don't get downloaded or revision checked for a while are clearly idle (users have deleted them because they didn't work hence they don't get revision checks anymore and word got around that they are not worth downloading) and could be moved to an archive. Once could check for "too few" instead of "none" if that's not yielding sensible results.

That would be more reliable indicator of value on files.wowace.com than TOC numbers or the willingness of authors to live inside IRC.

Quote from OrionShock »

wrt living in IRC, it's just common sense to do so.

Seriously! It's common sense to let people "live" as they wish as long as they can be reached and are generally responsible for what they are doing.

Quote from sylvanaar »

WAU2 was supposed to be the "Official" one - 9+ months ago. I sank 1500+ manhours into WAU, maintained it for WAY longer than I had planned to, and put up with enough whining for one lifetime. Its no longer really maintained by anyone. Don't expect it to change, find an alternative on your own, or, maybe, you should do all these things yourself and provide them for everyone to use, that way it will be just like you want it to be.

Too bad I never get to see anything about decisions like this on the forum/anywhere else :( secret irc channels again?

Xinhuan is completely right about not hearing anything about changes though they were promised.

Who runs this place for real anyway? I certainly arent getting anywhere with my years (fucking years! rediculous!) of whining.

Well i think just bumping the toc to the most recent would solve quite alot problems the easiest way, you can think of way to complicated ways to solve them but in the end its just work for nothing.


People that already use the Addon got the most recent Version so they dont care about it vanishing from files/WAU and as it still works who cares
Authors/Maintainers will bump the .toc if they change the Addon
Kind people will bump .tocs of Addons stilll working

And about the other issue with the SVN, i dont really know whats happening and why nothing seems to happen, but it cant be that hard to create a /tags tree and set files.wowace.com to only show /tags Addons and only show /trunk Addons under smth like files.beta.wowace.com
WAU doesnt really need changes besides one option "use Beta blabla" where it just uses the Beta files page instead.