Miranda was my preferred IM client for being so customizable or as tiny as you wanted...until the site went sorta belly-up. It's there, but the addons area hasn't been restored.
Shoo you IM junkies! I hate IM programs because they tend to be bloated and like to set themselves to run on system startup by default, and I'm anti-social anyways. I stopped using IRC for a few years too, although I lurk on the WoWAce IRC chan once in a while :)
Is that not what we've been saying? SIMPLE EXCHANGE OF TEXT IS ALL WE WANT!
Bitlbee's the best solution I've found since I'm always on IRC anyway. Plus I don't have to run any software on my end, just connect to their public server.
Is that not what we've been saying? SIMPLE EXCHANGE OF TEXT IS ALL WE WANT!
Bitlbee's the best solution I've found since I'm always on IRC anyway. Plus I don't have to run any software on my end, just connect to their public server.
I experimented once, to see what my fps would be with no addons, ~10mb worth (in a full raid), and my usual 40 mb. The fps difference was around ~3fps between 0 addons and 40mb worth of addons. Loading times impacted more, since I use embedded libraries. I went from < 5sec to 8 secs to 15 secs loading time.
Results: Went back to using my full addons list ^_^
Yep, like we're saying, if you want to improve performance, consider optimizing your other loaded programs, what needs to load etc. Like earlier, I far recommend eset for best performance security software, X-Chat for irc, firefox beta for web (pewpew memory leaks) although it's best not to have one open when playing. Also, you can't beat a good googleing. You will find thousands of tweaks and things for every OS to improve performance.
from what I have seen wow has set a hard limit on how much memory it will allocate, no matter how much ram you got.. so the more (static) memory your ui consumes it will affect other data cached by the client.
on laptops the biggest bottleneck is the harddrive. 2.5" are always much slower then 3.5" regarding transfer rates because of the smaller diameter.
The reason most laptop HDs are slow is because they have a slower rotational velocity, which impacts their seek time. Transfer speeds are the same. For instance, my laptop has a 4200rpm drive..
However, there -are- high performance 7200rpm laptop drives out there that are just as fast as their 3.5" brethren.
on laptops the biggest bottleneck is the harddrive. 2.5" are always much slower then 3.5" regarding transfer rates because of the smaller diameter.
That makes no sense. All other things being equal, a smaller diameter would mean the data is all closer together, resulting in a shorter seek time.
Anyways, if you're running a dual-core (or more) system, background apps aren't going to impact your WoW performance to any significant degree. WoW takes up my entire first core plus 0-15% of my second. The other apps I typically have running (Firefox, Ventrilo, WAU) use less than 20% combined of the second core, leaving well over 50% of one core unused.
Going back to the IM thingies (you know MSN and stuff)
I would like to just have a simple alternative for it. I only use MSN so it doesnt have to include ICQ and IRC and all those shizzles.
Recomendationssssssssss?
Going back to the IM thingies (you know MSN and stuff)
I would like to just have a simple alternative for it. I only use MSN so it doesnt have to include ICQ and IRC and all those shizzles.
Recomendationssssssssss?
If you only use one what's the issue? Those of us that are bitching are the ones who don't want to load 6 different programs that, at their core, serve the exact same function.
Because diameter is only one of the two dimentions that come into play when reading off a disc? Less distance for the head to travel would certainly help with seek times, but I don't see how it would help much for reading unless your data is fragmented all over the drive, which in general is usually a bad thing.
And why exactly are we debating this shit anyway? Drives have their stats published, just go compare them.
I know I'm gonna draw fire with this, but I use Pidgin for IM.
I need 5 networks (Jabber, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, AIM), plus IRC ofc, so single-network clients ain't an option.
Then:
- Trillian = feature creep and a massive ultra-slow program
- Miranda = never worked right, could be my PC ofc but I never got it remotely to work like I wanted it to without 50000 plugins which shot it's memory usage into the upper reaches
3rd I tried Pidgin, and so far stuck with that. Works well, doesn't use all that much memory, and good plugins.
Tried Trillian Astra, it's like XP -> Vista. Lose tons of functionality to good looks, lose tons of resources to good looks, get... wait, only good looks?!
If you only use one what's the issue? Those of us that are bitching are the ones who don't want to load 6 different programs that, at their core, serve the exact same function.
Yeah but sometimes Live Messenger seems to behave so slow, and with the stupid ads here and there.
AH well I'll guess I'll just stick to it ;)
@p3lim, got any nice links from mess.be I should check out? :p
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But then, I only really use IM to talk to one client and to the hubby when we don't want the roomie to hear, so yea, I don't need big featureful shit.
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Is that not what we've been saying? SIMPLE EXCHANGE OF TEXT IS ALL WE WANT!
Bitlbee's the best solution I've found since I'm always on IRC anyway. Plus I don't have to run any software on my end, just connect to their public server.
you left out the anti-social part.
Results: Went back to using my full addons list ^_^
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Forum Moderatoron laptops the biggest bottleneck is the harddrive. 2.5" are always much slower then 3.5" regarding transfer rates because of the smaller diameter.
The reason most laptop HDs are slow is because they have a slower rotational velocity, which impacts their seek time. Transfer speeds are the same. For instance, my laptop has a 4200rpm drive..
However, there -are- high performance 7200rpm laptop drives out there that are just as fast as their 3.5" brethren.
That makes no sense. All other things being equal, a smaller diameter would mean the data is all closer together, resulting in a shorter seek time.
Anyways, if you're running a dual-core (or more) system, background apps aren't going to impact your WoW performance to any significant degree. WoW takes up my entire first core plus 0-15% of my second. The other apps I typically have running (Firefox, Ventrilo, WAU) use less than 20% combined of the second core, leaving well over 50% of one core unused.
But don't laptop drives usually spin slower to conserve power? Desktops can throw as much power around as their PSU can sling out, remember.
what does that have to do with disc diameter?
break19's post makes sense to me :p
I would like to just have a simple alternative for it. I only use MSN so it doesnt have to include ICQ and IRC and all those shizzles.
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Curse PremiumIf you only use one what's the issue? Those of us that are bitching are the ones who don't want to load 6 different programs that, at their core, serve the exact same function.
Because diameter is only one of the two dimentions that come into play when reading off a disc? Less distance for the head to travel would certainly help with seek times, but I don't see how it would help much for reading unless your data is fragmented all over the drive, which in general is usually a bad thing.
And why exactly are we debating this shit anyway? Drives have their stats published, just go compare them.
I need 5 networks (Jabber, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, AIM), plus IRC ofc, so single-network clients ain't an option.
Then:
- Trillian = feature creep and a massive ultra-slow program
- Miranda = never worked right, could be my PC ofc but I never got it remotely to work like I wanted it to without 50000 plugins which shot it's memory usage into the upper reaches
3rd I tried Pidgin, and so far stuck with that. Works well, doesn't use all that much memory, and good plugins.
Tried Trillian Astra, it's like XP -> Vista. Lose tons of functionality to good looks, lose tons of resources to good looks, get... wait, only good looks?!
well..
average read transfer on 3.5" hard drives: http://www23.tomshardware.com/storage.html?modelx=33&model1=117&model2=676&chart=34
average read transfer on 2.5" hard drivers: http://www23.tomshardware.com/storage25.html?modelx=33&model1=425&model2=414&chart=142
with the random access times it's not better :)
Partially correct. laptop HDs have variable rotational velocities. When operating on AC power, they will spin at full speed.
Yeah but sometimes Live Messenger seems to behave so slow, and with the stupid ads here and there.
AH well I'll guess I'll just stick to it ;)
@p3lim, got any nice links from mess.be I should check out? :p