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The wowace site - the colorscheme - does make up a part of its business identity, people learn to associate this particular color scheme with wow ace, same for the blue (yes, it is blue, the heart in the three cards - however is red) and the Ace of spades. There already is an identity. So unless you're willing to create a new wiki theme + smf theme, for psychology sake, best to keep it blue, ace of spades and a 3 somewhere. Though the 3 (hell, you could draw a tree with spades as leaves lol) should technically only be included into the GAME ICON logo. Not the site logo, unless no Ace or Ace2 will remain on the site.
Yes, I am coming across like I am lecturing and being a know-it-all, but I am very tired and wanted to take advantage of a fairly lucid moment of ideas to post them :) Please don't think I am snapping, just tired and rushing this post out there.
And Seerah, love ya. :) Don't feel bad, my comments weren't directed at anyone as I said on Yahoo :) *huggles*
I haven't seen any suggestion that was crap. I think all suggestions so far are very nice really. Of course they are different and some are sketches, but hey. I could post a sketch I made real quick at work for some real crap contribution but I rather not :P
Seerah! No don't think that, what you did was awesome and I really like them. I do think I kinda like the flowery style of the one on the front page as well. Do you think you could incorporate the flowery old world style feel of the one of the front page into the one you did?
The flowery one would be awesome as site logo, but as favicon or game icon, the flowery look would evaporate due to the small size.
I'm sorry. Blame it on pms. :) I just feel really short-fused today, I guess.
How about Ghandarva's second one? (with the blue 3) Or do you want it to have the A still? Still wondering how the blue would look on the gray Ace3 Config background... Should it be more grayscale and minimalistic? Like it's embossed there maybe?
I'm sorry. Blame it on pms. :) I just feel really short-fused today, I guess.
Here's some cookies :) And Chocolate, feel better, mmmk?
Also, embossed might look good. I would go blueish in hue of the emboss then though. It would be subtle, but enough to be shown. If it's too prominent, then it will be too "branding" (no, not going to the previous thread, but keeping it in mind as well), but too lowkey and it will fade into oblivion.
From a user standpoint:
A logo is good, it identifies that an addon belongs to the Ace3 brand, that its configuration will have a similar look-n-feel, that it will be easy to update, and more likely than not, be more updated.
From a distribution standpoint:
I'm not convinced that every addon embedding AceGUI-3.0 should be including a graphic file (the logo). In fact, AceGUI-3.0 is already big enough (120 kb or so in total file sizes) that I do not want Ace3 to be forcefully embedded (discussion was in another thread) if I so choose to install Ace3 addons disembedded.
I am strongly against the idea that Ace3 should always be embedded, no matter how small the Ace3 libraries are written to be. And 120kb is just AceGUI-3.0, I haven't included the other parts of Ace3 yet that are commonly included such as AceEvent, AceAddon, AceConfig, AceDB, AceConsole and AceLocale. If I run 8 Ace3 addons, I definitely do not wish to load 1 mb of code that I only need to load once: 120 kb.
Adding a graphic file to the core embedded distribution may be counter-intuitive to keeping Ace3 small.
From an author standpoint:
I don't care whether there is a logo or not. It makes no difference to my code.
From an aesthetics standpoint:
The blue, red, black, flowery, etc designs, and even the paradox cube are good. But I feel we are going a step too far. They must look good even at small sizes of say 12x12 in a small corner, and any detailed flowery stuff will not be seen. I think Snago's one is the best here, as it is a simple monochrome logo:
It will be small in file size (as it is monochrome), and it will look good even scaled at small sizes, because of the 2-color contrast. It doesn't have to be strictly black-n-white, it can be darkblue-and-white and it'll still be fine.
From a user standpoint:
A logo is good, it identifies that an addon belongs to the Ace3 brand, that its configuration will have a similar look-n-feel, that it will be easy to update, and more likely than not, be more updated.
From a distribution standpoint:
I'm not convinced that every addon embedding AceGUI-3.0 should be including a graphic file (the logo). In fact, AceGUI-3.0 is already big enough (120 kb or so in total file sizes) that I do not want Ace3 to be forcefully embedded (discussion was in another thread) if I so choose to install Ace3 addons disembedded.
I am strongly against the idea that Ace3 should always be embedded, no matter how small the Ace3 libraries are written to be. And 120kb is just AceGUI-3.0, I haven't included the other parts of Ace3 yet that are commonly included such as AceEvent, AceAddon, AceConfig, AceDB, AceConsole and AceLocale. If I run 8 Ace3 addons, I definitely do not wish to load 1 mb of code that I only need to load once: 120 kb.
Adding a graphic file to the core embedded distribution may be counter-intuitive to keeping Ace3 small.
From an author standpoint:
I don't care whether there is a logo or not. It makes no difference to my code.
From an aesthetics standpoint:
The blue, red, black, flowery, etc designs, and even the paradox cube are good. But I feel we are going a step too far. They must look good even at small sizes of say 12x12 in a small corner, and any detailed flowery stuff will not be seen. I think Snago's one is the best here, as it is a simple monochrome logo:
It will be small in file size (as it is monochrome), and it will look good even scaled at small sizes, because of the 2-color contrast. It doesn't have to be strictly black-n-white, it can be darkblue-and-white and it'll still be fine.
For those complaining, this isn't being forced upon anyone, the intent is to provide a nice, small, clean logo for people wishing to "brand" their addon, specifically in a config screen. It's not going to be added to any library.
It's also not meant for the web site. Personally I'd probably use the paradox cube if the site was redesigned... but I know of no plans for that to happen.
From an aesthetics standpoint:
The blue, red, black, flowery, etc designs, and even the paradox cube are good. But I feel we are going a step too far. They must look good even at small sizes of say 12x12 in a small corner, and any detailed flowery stuff will not be seen. I think Snago's one is the best here, as it is a simple monochrome logo:
It will be small in file size (as it is monochrome), and it will look good even scaled at small sizes, because of the 2-color contrast. It doesn't have to be strictly black-n-white, it can be darkblue-and-white and it'll still be fine.
LoL Nandini, at least you proved the point. At 12x12, the "A" is just barely visible.
Now imagine any of the other logos provided at 12x12, they would look terrible. :)
Also, I am referring to the in-game's 12x12 size at UIScale 1.0. Not really referring to 12x12 pixel size.
The wowace site - the colorscheme - does make up a part of its business identity, people learn to associate this particular color scheme with wow ace, same for the blue (yes, it is blue, the heart in the three cards - however is red) and the Ace of spades. There already is an identity. So unless you're willing to create a new wiki theme + smf theme, for psychology sake, best to keep it blue, ace of spades and a 3 somewhere. Though the 3 (hell, you could draw a tree with spades as leaves lol) should technically only be included into the GAME ICON logo. Not the site logo, unless no Ace or Ace2 will remain on the site.
Yes, I am coming across like I am lecturing and being a know-it-all, but I am very tired and wanted to take advantage of a fairly lucid moment of ideas to post them :) Please don't think I am snapping, just tired and rushing this post out there.
And Seerah, love ya. :) Don't feel bad, my comments weren't directed at anyone as I said on Yahoo :) *huggles*
The flowery one would be awesome as site logo, but as favicon or game icon, the flowery look would evaporate due to the small size.
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Curse PremiumHow about Ghandarva's second one? (with the blue 3) Or do you want it to have the A still? Still wondering how the blue would look on the gray Ace3 Config background... Should it be more grayscale and minimalistic? Like it's embossed there maybe?
Here's some cookies :) And Chocolate, feel better, mmmk?
Also, embossed might look good. I would go blueish in hue of the emboss then though. It would be subtle, but enough to be shown. If it's too prominent, then it will be too "branding" (no, not going to the previous thread, but keeping it in mind as well), but too lowkey and it will fade into oblivion.
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Curse PremiumA logo is good, it identifies that an addon belongs to the Ace3 brand, that its configuration will have a similar look-n-feel, that it will be easy to update, and more likely than not, be more updated.
From a distribution standpoint:
I'm not convinced that every addon embedding AceGUI-3.0 should be including a graphic file (the logo). In fact, AceGUI-3.0 is already big enough (120 kb or so in total file sizes) that I do not want Ace3 to be forcefully embedded (discussion was in another thread) if I so choose to install Ace3 addons disembedded.
I am strongly against the idea that Ace3 should always be embedded, no matter how small the Ace3 libraries are written to be. And 120kb is just AceGUI-3.0, I haven't included the other parts of Ace3 yet that are commonly included such as AceEvent, AceAddon, AceConfig, AceDB, AceConsole and AceLocale. If I run 8 Ace3 addons, I definitely do not wish to load 1 mb of code that I only need to load once: 120 kb.
Adding a graphic file to the core embedded distribution may be counter-intuitive to keeping Ace3 small.
From an author standpoint:
I don't care whether there is a logo or not. It makes no difference to my code.
From an aesthetics standpoint:
The blue, red, black, flowery, etc designs, and even the paradox cube are good. But I feel we are going a step too far. They must look good even at small sizes of say 12x12 in a small corner, and any detailed flowery stuff will not be seen. I think Snago's one is the best here, as it is a simple monochrome logo:
It will be small in file size (as it is monochrome), and it will look good even scaled at small sizes, because of the 2-color contrast. It doesn't have to be strictly black-n-white, it can be darkblue-and-white and it'll still be fine.
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Curse Premiumme like that one
This one's the winner IMO :)
For those complaining, this isn't being forced upon anyone, the intent is to provide a nice, small, clean logo for people wishing to "brand" their addon, specifically in a config screen. It's not going to be added to any library.
It's also not meant for the web site. Personally I'd probably use the paradox cube if the site was redesigned... but I know of no plans for that to happen.
Here it is at 12x12:
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Curse PremiumNow imagine any of the other logos provided at 12x12, they would look terrible. :)
Also, I am referring to the in-game's 12x12 size at UIScale 1.0. Not really referring to 12x12 pixel size.
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Curse PremiumNot that bad really, but it really doesn't have anything to do with Ace :)
However, I still vote for the monochrome one.