What I'm basically looking for is a version of oQueue that doesn't suck.
OQueue is a cross-realm grouping tool using a battletag mesh. The addon contacts a set user run by the addon author, who relays messages from hundreds or thousands of battletag friends. You can create your own group with a description, ilvl and pvp power requirements, etc, then people petition to join it. It's very useful and has very quickly become essential to me and many others. When flex raids come in patch 5.4 it will be even more so.
As per GC's tweets, Blizzard specifically does not intend to fill this need-- they allow manual cross-realm raiding in flex raids, but not cross-realm queueing like LFR.
The problem is that while this addon fills a huge need, and is thus very popular (>500k downloads on curse), it's a complete piece of crap. The author adds tons of random features unrelated to creating/finding groups like battleground timers and monster bounties, is unresponsive to most user feedback, only accepts echochamber-type feedback on facebook, the addon randomly freezes the game for 4-5 seconds every time you inspect other players, he checks every time you target anything so you can /hail if it's him (seriously), it sucks up tons of CPU, when uninstalled you get spammed from your oQueue friends 100s of times (needs warnings/documentation), and so on. It's terrible... and I must use it, because it's the only option.
Ideally any replacement would use the same channel to join oQueue's mesh, but the addon is licensed "all rights reserved" so that might not be possible. Even if you need to start over, everybody I know uses oQueue, and everybody I know hates it. I believe that an oQueue clone sans suck would be very popular very quickly.
Where was I rude or disrespectful? That was not my intention, and if it came off that way I apologize.
Edit: Also I don't expect anyone to do anything for me, since I'm not offering to pay. I'm just throwing the idea out there and hoping someone finds it worthwhile and runs with it.
last I checked, no developer reacts well when someone insults them on their first meeting. especially if they're doing it for free.
if you would like to see something modified, there are numerous locations to post. if you rant or be an ass, it gets ignored (chad is a perfect example). you can even talk me through your issues in vent and I'll see what I can do. please make sure to have the latest so we are talking about the same things
oQueue was a learning experience as I had never used lua before on a project of any complexity (I'm a c++ dev). I'm still trying to figure stuff out, but most of it is fumbling in the dark (I don't know anyone that does lua...just this forum). I'm starting to 'get it' and the code is slowly changing to reflect it (I'm still unsure how to make lua oo... we'll see)
if your issue is that it's 'all rights reserved' ... tough beans, that's not going to change. if your issue is with some of the features, most features can be toggled. if not, let me know. (FYI, i'll be changing the angry lil button to a raging lil bar if you're in combat)
No, I'm not Chaud. If I knew you read these forums I would have been less, umm, blunt. I didn't mean any insult to you directly; it's your addon, you own it, you're developing it for free, and you can add any crazy features and use any license you wish. You don't owe me or anyone else a thing!
That said, from your responses elsewhere, it was pretty clear that you are not interested in making the sort of changes Chaud requested; primarily modularizing the addon so I can disable everything that isn't involved in cross-realm group finding. I read his Reddit comments and found myself nodding my head and going "that guy is dead on!", and I hoped someone else might be interested in producing something that more closely fits my needs.
yea, i won't be doing anything to satisfy chad. after his tantrum on reddit, he's cemented his place in the 'ass' category as far as i'm concerned. it truly seems he was bent that i didn't clutch his buglist like the word of god and run off to the corner to dutifully work on it. amazing actually. (should i admit to having to google MMOC? that's how he introduced himself, saying he wanted to feature oQueue on MMOC. yea, i've never really been to their site)
my future efforts on oQueue are mine and i will work on them as i see fit. i talk with users, run games, listen to their feedback, and decide what my priority list is personally. having a hissy fit on a public forum won't change the priority of anything
as for any issues you may have, letting me know goes a long way to getting them resolved... of course, please make sure to be up to date and post the version along with the issue
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OQueue is a cross-realm grouping tool using a battletag mesh. The addon contacts a set user run by the addon author, who relays messages from hundreds or thousands of battletag friends. You can create your own group with a description, ilvl and pvp power requirements, etc, then people petition to join it. It's very useful and has very quickly become essential to me and many others. When flex raids come in patch 5.4 it will be even more so.
As per GC's tweets, Blizzard specifically does not intend to fill this need-- they allow manual cross-realm raiding in flex raids, but not cross-realm queueing like LFR.
The problem is that while this addon fills a huge need, and is thus very popular (>500k downloads on curse), it's a complete piece of crap. The author adds tons of random features unrelated to creating/finding groups like battleground timers and monster bounties, is unresponsive to most user feedback, only accepts echochamber-type feedback on facebook, the addon randomly freezes the game for 4-5 seconds every time you inspect other players, he checks every time you target anything so you can /hail if it's him (seriously), it sucks up tons of CPU, when uninstalled you get spammed from your oQueue friends 100s of times (needs warnings/documentation), and so on. It's terrible... and I must use it, because it's the only option.
Ideally any replacement would use the same channel to join oQueue's mesh, but the addon is licensed "all rights reserved" so that might not be possible. Even if you need to start over, everybody I know uses oQueue, and everybody I know hates it. I believe that an oQueue clone sans suck would be very popular very quickly.
Any interest?
oQueue
http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/oqueue
A fine explanation why it sucks (see posts from Chaud @ mmo-champ)
http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1hs78q/what_the_heck_is_this_just_randomly_popped_up_on/
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Curse Premium/edit: being rude and disrespectful will not make anyone else want to code an addon for you.
Edit: Also I don't expect anyone to do anything for me, since I'm not offering to pay. I'm just throwing the idea out there and hoping someone finds it worthwhile and runs with it.
nevertheless I'm amazed at how tinystomper made an addon such as oQueue
*ignore me, I don't have anything relevant to say ><
last I checked, no developer reacts well when someone insults them on their first meeting. especially if they're doing it for free.
if you would like to see something modified, there are numerous locations to post. if you rant or be an ass, it gets ignored (chad is a perfect example). you can even talk me through your issues in vent and I'll see what I can do. please make sure to have the latest so we are talking about the same things
oQueue was a learning experience as I had never used lua before on a project of any complexity (I'm a c++ dev). I'm still trying to figure stuff out, but most of it is fumbling in the dark (I don't know anyone that does lua...just this forum). I'm starting to 'get it' and the code is slowly changing to reflect it (I'm still unsure how to make lua oo... we'll see)
if your issue is that it's 'all rights reserved' ... tough beans, that's not going to change. if your issue is with some of the features, most features can be toggled. if not, let me know. (FYI, i'll be changing the angry lil button to a raging lil bar if you're in combat)
That said, from your responses elsewhere, it was pretty clear that you are not interested in making the sort of changes Chaud requested; primarily modularizing the addon so I can disable everything that isn't involved in cross-realm group finding. I read his Reddit comments and found myself nodding my head and going "that guy is dead on!", and I hoped someone else might be interested in producing something that more closely fits my needs.
my future efforts on oQueue are mine and i will work on them as i see fit. i talk with users, run games, listen to their feedback, and decide what my priority list is personally. having a hissy fit on a public forum won't change the priority of anything
as for any issues you may have, letting me know goes a long way to getting them resolved... of course, please make sure to be up to date and post the version along with the issue