Basically what I understood from what I have read so far it would be possible to create your own version of the /m interface, isn't that correct?
If so what I would like to see is a more advanced Macro interface, stored in the users WTF to remove limitaion of how many macros you can have and possibly also removing the 255 char limit.
I guess this could be done but I myself lack the knowledge to create such a thing.
You can't get around the macro limit. If you need that many macros, something is seriously wrong.
Well, I currently have just about 9 used when I'm healing specced, 4 in bear form and 2 in cat form. In this case I'm left with 3 spare macros and these do not cover for when I want to specc Moonkin for example, then I need to rewrite my current ones.
It's very easy to hit the macro limit. I'm constantly full on my main and regularly rewritring macros that I would actually like to keep.
Another way around is to use clique for click-casting if you use that for healing. It has a built-in macro feature for this purpose which does not count towards your macro total.
But yes, a solution that expand the number of macros would be nice but it's difficult to do. I've been looking around if someone found a crazy way of doing this beside writing whole new action bars etc ever since I was raid leading. Macros are very helpful in raid encounters, and constantly juggling the macro number restriction was tedious. That's years back now and I still haven't seen any direct solution for it.
An alternative solution would be an addon that rewrites current macros based on context (shapeshift form, stealth...). That could be good for druids, where the number of state-dependent macros can be large. But problem is that the API to edit macros is (naturally) disabled during combat, because otherwise one could do rather mighty combat-dependent behavior-changes. So that makes this not workable exactly for druids who like to shapeshift in combat.
Basically it's tricky. Macaroon/clique may be as good as it gets for stuff like this.
Well, I currently have just about 9 used when I'm healing specced, 4 in bear form and 2 in cat form. In this case I'm left with 3 spare macros and these do not cover for when I want to specc Moonkin for example, then I need to rewrite my current ones.
For that matter, it looks like you'd better have an addon that introduces macro profiles, i.e. allowing to backup/restore several different sets of macros.
Well, I currently have just about 9 used when I'm healing specced, 4 in bear form and 2 in cat form. In this case I'm left with 3 spare macros and these do not cover for when I want to specc Moonkin for example, then I need to rewrite my current ones.
And if you used conditionals, you'd only be using 9 macros!
Point is though that the number of macros can be tight for some, and that the macro length equally. Neither is ample so to speak. To say that both is fine as is remind me a little of the old Bill Gates quote: "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
512 chars and double the macro numbers and I might have a different few on this. As is either limit can be reached in standard use. I certainly have hit both on numerous occasions.
But helping people cope with the realities of the limitations as we have them certainly is helpful. That certainly doesn't mean that reality is great or that coping is a no-brainer in some cases.
Describing the macros you're using might help us give you more relevant solutions.
For example, if your healing macros are mouseover macros, you might look into click-casting addons such as Clique.
Alternatively, you could use an action bar addon that supports macro buttons in addition to standard action buttons; macro buttons are not limited by the number of macro slots in the macro UI, and support macros up to 1024 characters in length. One example of such an action bar addon is Macaroon.
After some tweaking I managed to shorten most of my macros hence actually giving me 4 additional slot. I guess my lack of knowledge got me this time but as always Google is your firend.
At least my problems are solved, and cheers for the Macroon ad-don, I'll check it out.
I was just going to ring up with "an addon that makes his own buttons can put macro's inside them, and you can have as many of those as you have space on your screen" when I saw Phanx's post which said it all and more :D.
There isn't a way, as the actions performed by those macros are protected. Additionally, since it uses EditMacro, it requires that at least the "TGT*" macros be created in the Blizzard macro interface. The best you could do would be to use macrotext buttons like those created by Macaroon to free up the slots occupied by the second set of macros which edit the first. Also, if you actually read the post you linked, there are 16 macros, not 8.
hmmmm. but its possible to make an addon that saything in chat. and ya can extend it so that when it pick ups the message anf targets the player who send the message. ya even can go further and let it try to cast a spell. But think then your in the illegal department. ( making automated bot ) disadv. is that every1 needs to addon. duno if healbot does it anyways hf if ya wanne make it
What? If I understand correctly, you think that an addon can target a player based on seeing a chat message from them, and cast a spell after doing so? An addon absolutely cannot do those things; doing them would require a third-party program simulating keystrokes, and would get you immediately and permanently banned if Blizzard noticed you doing them.
Addons cannot target players or cast spells without the use of secure templates, and these actions can only occur in response to a hardware event initiated by the user. Addons can send chat messages without these restrictions, because sending chat messages is not considered secure.
Also, if you actually read the post you linked, there are 16 macros, not 8.
I did read and I do use macaroon hence I said 8 macros that have to be made in standard blizzard interface that I don't want to have. But you are right about the number. I want to discard all 16 macros for the purpose of this discussion.
Thanks for an answer.
I guess I was hoping more for some kind of addon that would check if target is in a melee range and kept tabbing if it is not. I abhor the idea that I need macros to edit macros and do the marking to accomplish a task as simple as targeting something in meele range.
If so what I would like to see is a more advanced Macro interface, stored in the users WTF to remove limitaion of how many macros you can have and possibly also removing the 255 char limit.
I guess this could be done but I myself lack the knowledge to create such a thing.
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html
and
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10636-Macaroon.html
That doesn't answer directly to your question nor isn't exactly what you were suggesting but maybe a starting point for something...
cheers, I'll look into Macroon as it seems to be able to solve my problem =)
Well, I currently have just about 9 used when I'm healing specced, 4 in bear form and 2 in cat form. In this case I'm left with 3 spare macros and these do not cover for when I want to specc Moonkin for example, then I need to rewrite my current ones.
Another way around is to use clique for click-casting if you use that for healing. It has a built-in macro feature for this purpose which does not count towards your macro total.
But yes, a solution that expand the number of macros would be nice but it's difficult to do. I've been looking around if someone found a crazy way of doing this beside writing whole new action bars etc ever since I was raid leading. Macros are very helpful in raid encounters, and constantly juggling the macro number restriction was tedious. That's years back now and I still haven't seen any direct solution for it.
An alternative solution would be an addon that rewrites current macros based on context (shapeshift form, stealth...). That could be good for druids, where the number of state-dependent macros can be large. But problem is that the API to edit macros is (naturally) disabled during combat, because otherwise one could do rather mighty combat-dependent behavior-changes. So that makes this not workable exactly for druids who like to shapeshift in combat.
Basically it's tricky. Macaroon/clique may be as good as it gets for stuff like this.
For that matter, it looks like you'd better have an addon that introduces macro profiles, i.e. allowing to backup/restore several different sets of macros.
And if you used conditionals, you'd only be using 9 macros!
512 chars and double the macro numbers and I might have a different few on this. As is either limit can be reached in standard use. I certainly have hit both on numerous occasions.
But helping people cope with the realities of the limitations as we have them certainly is helpful. That certainly doesn't mean that reality is great or that coping is a no-brainer in some cases.
For example, if your healing macros are mouseover macros, you might look into click-casting addons such as Clique.
Alternatively, you could use an action bar addon that supports macro buttons in addition to standard action buttons; macro buttons are not limited by the number of macro slots in the macro UI, and support macros up to 1024 characters in length. One example of such an action bar addon is Macaroon.
At least my problems are solved, and cheers for the Macroon ad-don, I'll check it out.
If someone has an idea how to accomplish target cycling w/o those 8 macros described here I would be quite happy:
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f120/41395-target-cycling.html
Addons cannot target players or cast spells without the use of secure templates, and these actions can only occur in response to a hardware event initiated by the user. Addons can send chat messages without these restrictions, because sending chat messages is not considered secure.
I did read and I do use macaroon hence I said 8 macros that have to be made in standard blizzard interface that I don't want to have. But you are right about the number. I want to discard all 16 macros for the purpose of this discussion.
Thanks for an answer.
I guess I was hoping more for some kind of addon that would check if target is in a melee range and kept tabbing if it is not. I abhor the idea that I need macros to edit macros and do the marking to accomplish a task as simple as targeting something in meele range.
maybe it's just me but i just noticed this a few months ago...