Except for the fact that it scales well with gear & the current +dmg.
An extra 300-400dps raid wide is not "outdated."
It's won't give you 300 more raid dps, not even close. The proc rate isn't stellar vs lvl 73 and it has a very very low debuff priority.. meaning everything else can and will knock it off. Basically it's not worth using over having that spare person just dps with proper weapons.
When you kill something past Kara, you let me know.
Going to have to ask you to settle down, since you seem to be a bit behind the play here.
Note: In beta there was a semi decent blue weapon with a similar proc that may have been worthwhile using in TBC raids. It was obtainable from a quest in shadow moon valley. However, blizzard decided to remove it.
PS: I've had a nightfall axe since MC, used for various things in mc/bwl/aq20/naxx. Especially loatheb it was stellar. However there just isn't a use for it in TBC.
Yeah having a Warrior running around having ~500dps compared to having >1,2k dps is really worth getting this proc every month...
It was already worthless using it in Naxx after it got nerfed...if you keep using it then well your choice, its totally wasted dps...
The ONLY reason you might use it if you have a 2nd Prot Warrior using it who has nothing to do besides DPSing, but if you bring 2Prot Warriors you normally do it for a reason :P
Though for example at Illidan the FR Tank(if you use a Warrior) can just use it after Elementals are down as he is normally prot+having FR gear on...on reason we use Druids for that they can atleast Heal/combatress/Innervate when they are done with Tanking :P Agonizing Flames will hurt if it goes on Melees then...
The dps increase is so not worth mentioning though
I've completed Black Temple. And we DO use Nightfall.
Then please, go find your raid member who is using it and slap them upside the head and make them equip a decent weapon! Maybe buy them a calculator for Christmas, so they can work out the dps difference.
Yes, Nightfall was a worthwile investment to have 1 spare prot warrior using it on the boss, in a 40-man raid. Overall, it was a good dps gain, as that prot warrior wasn't contributing much to the damage on the boss anyway.
For 25-man tbc raids? No way. You shouldn't have ANY dead weight in your raid anyway, so using this would be a HUGE nerf in dps to the person who equipped it.
My raid finished 4 boss in black temple and 2 in hyjal. We do use nightfall. Our second tank use it. When fight is doable by 1 tank what you want second tank to stay there for? Hit with nightfall is best choice IMO.
Um, I looked up the axe on WoWhead, and if the one you're talking about is the same axe, then yes, find that raid member and slap him upside the head, preferably with a disarm move, so you can confiscate it promptly.
A level 60 epic crafted axe, with 67 dps, no stats, and a proc of spell damage +15% vs. target for 5 seconds? That'll never do later on in BT or other TBC raids.
As far as the mod goes, it's only 5 seconds, which just isn't enough notice for, say, the fire mages to pull off a single pyroblast if they weren't 3+ seconds into casting it already. Only spells I see as being useful with 5 second's notice are instant-casts, and its just not worth making a new mods to tell your raid
My suggestion: get the guy with nightfall to make an emote which simply says something like "NIGHTFALL has procc'd".
Perhaps you could also have him use Spellbinder (or whatever it's called) or something similar to give it a hotkey, so he can press it nice and fast once he notices his outdated weapon has procc'd, and then perhaps you can test your caster's reaction times with the symphony of moonfires, fireblasts, various shocks and arcane shots all going off nearly at once.
Actually, that'd be something I'd like to see. If the macro thingy works, please record it, it might be popular on YouTube. (pretty lights! :D)
But please, it's quite easy to find something better for the off-tank to use. Even my friend's lv 61 mage has a staff with almost the same dps (57), has some great stats to boot (33 stam, 32 int, spell crit 22, spell dmg/heal 30), and it's a GREEN quest reward.
*looks at his post count* Hmmm, time to get myself an avatar.