Nev, thanks for trying to be a voice of reason for the devs. I completely understand that the wowace community started as something different, but I also accept that it has grown into something else - something that can be better for everyone if approached with an open mind.
But just because part of the new direction of the site may include a desire to filter out some of the noise doesn't mean that it's suddenly open season to flame all the noobs that stop by asking for help or wondering why everything changed all of a sudden.
Or maybe I'm wrong in thinking that, in which case please let me know and I'll be the first to walk out the door and leave you all to your work of dismantling the current heart of the community, because I have no interest in watching it devolve into some kind of openly user-hostile elitist developer circle-jerk.
Sorry Orion/Arrow/Indy, you're not in charge of the community here, Kaelten is, and you're just as guilty at suffering from entitlement effects. Please see my new sig :p
If all you can do is flame people instead of being constructive, then please just don't post. It's not helping anything, seriously, and I'm getting way more sick and tired of your trolling than of the clueless posts. WAY more.
wowace wasn't just a distribution site, it was a pioneer in distribution. That's why it ended up so popular. WAU accomplished what several other sites attempted before and have attempted since, and failed. files.wowace.com was a true masterpiece of simplicity, a place to go, get an addon, and get going with no nonsense. The devs here didn't just develop addons, but an infrastructure surrounding the development, testing, and distribution of addons. That's the truth of it. wowace became a one stop shop for addon use, and now people just expect things to stay that way. This goes double for the "power user," the person who knows enough to get dirty when they need to and truly appreciates not having to deal with the hand holding and mind numbing of a traditional front end.
Personally, rather than hating the users, you all should be proud of yourselves. All this hostility is uncalled for and unnecessary and truly disappointing. Let the people complain, and either in a week or two they'll be singing praises, or they'll wander off to another community to harass them instead. Handing out flames just encourages trolls to show up and makes you look bad :(.
You still don't get it, do you ? It's right there on the initial post.
"In all honesty, that second group of users never belonged on wowace in the first place. It was never ever meant as a release site, and wasn't built that way. WAU made users and authors lazy - authors stopped "releasing" their addons to release sites because it was too easy to just leave it on WAU, and users didn't want to look anywhere else because it was too easy to click one button to update."
Crystal now ? I don't think that anyone from the older members cares if they "look bad" or not when it comes to this. They are just sick of it, and setting the record straight.
He's getting it fine, just offering a different perspective on the same facts.
Sometimes what you make is not what you intended to make, that's all FlareCDE is saying.
Yes, flarecde2 has en extremely valid perspective, even if some people can't swallow it, and it's a bit sad to see that creation pushed aside (but even more sad to see some stodgy community members cheering it as it burns). The planned integration with Curse is really a better way to go though (if it can be pulled off) because it will make it easy for lazy authors to push changes to the main Curse site, since the lack of published release versions of addons on the wowace SVN was a big factor in the wowace SVN becoming a release point in itself. Lazy authors combined with some clever and powerful updater tools resulted in lazy users.
I can remember maybe 1-2 posts total in the Recount thread that I couldn't find some productive way to respond to. The fast majority of user feedback I am getting is productive. The signal to noise ratio is excellent overall and the omgz-some-users-panick is hardly a deep issue, at least in my realm of interaction.
Thanks for the link, I think I'll make it my sig :)
Also, Indy is pretty much a straight-up troll IMO. If he posted more often I'd probably put him on ignore.