Kaelten (and others) PAID for the hosting etc of wowace from their pockets, it wasn't doable anymore, Curse took up the bill, now we "merged". Sure, it's not perfect, but it was this or no more wowace. No one got incredibly rich of it, not even the "owner" of this community.
That's precisely why I used the term "sell out" in quotes. I did not imply that there was actually a transaction involved because in reality, the aforementioned people have sustained WoWAce financially in the past.
Actually, the only logical conclusion that anyone can come to, who has bothered to follow the progress of WoWAce, is that the "sellout" you are referring to, actually occurred a long, long time ago. Some people need a reality check.
Atleast when they're using the trunk they're going to get the fix right away when it's commited.
And that's exactly what was wrong with the old model. WAU should never have been allowed to package stuff from the trunk but rather from a stable tag which would force authors to not be lazy and tag their releases, while being free to continue development in either trunk or branches and optionally tag those as well as "betas". This is exactly what is being done now. As a result users won't get needless updates because a character was changed in the localization for the lost tribe in Amazon etc. They will still be able to get beta releases if an author wants them to, but generally they will have a much more stable UI.
Thanks Nev for clearing that up. I think it's only fair to clarify that I'm not advocating either Tek's or Arrowmaster's stance because I have an inherent hate towards users, so to speak. I can understand however (or at least try to) that they feel very strongly in certain cases due to past bad experience. It's a human reaction, as it is equally human for the other side to "fight back". As long as everything is kept within reasonable limits, I believe that it ultimately helps the 2 groups to understand each other. Fact remains that everyone has had his own experiences, pleasant or otherwise with both groups since let's face it, even developers are users, when it comes to addons they haven't written themselves and in my book should be expected to display the same courtesy they expect (?) from their own users.
wowace wasn't just a distribution site, it was a pioneer in distribution. That's why it ended up so popular. WAU accomplished what several other sites attempted before and have attempted since, and failed. files.wowace.com was a true masterpiece of simplicity, a place to go, get an addon, and get going with no nonsense. The devs here didn't just develop addons, but an infrastructure surrounding the development, testing, and distribution of addons. That's the truth of it. wowace became a one stop shop for addon use, and now people just expect things to stay that way. This goes double for the "power user," the person who knows enough to get dirty when they need to and truly appreciates not having to deal with the hand holding and mind numbing of a traditional front end.
Personally, rather than hating the users, you all should be proud of yourselves. All this hostility is uncalled for and unnecessary and truly disappointing. Let the people complain, and either in a week or two they'll be singing praises, or they'll wander off to another community to harass them instead. Handing out flames just encourages trolls to show up and makes you look bad :(.
You still don't get it, do you ? It's right there on the initial post.
"In all honesty, that second group of users never belonged on wowace in the first place. It was never ever meant as a release site, and wasn't built that way. WAU made users and authors lazy - authors stopped "releasing" their addons to release sites because it was too easy to just leave it on WAU, and users didn't want to look anywhere else because it was too easy to click one button to update."
Crystal now ? I don't think that anyone from the older members cares if they "look bad" or not when it comes to this. They are just sick of it, and setting the record straight.